Can the Jailbreak section be renamed as "iOS Hacking" or something else?

**Irish Rose** · 08-17-2012, 01:13 PM

If you look at these two threads: http://forums.imore.com/imore-lounge...cks-now-2.html, and http://forums.imore.com/imore-lounge...-tapatalk.html, you will see that Tapatalk is no longer playing nicely with the Jailbreak section of the forums here on iMore...... Other sites seem to get around the Jailbreak block by calling it iOS Hacking instead. Is it possible that this could be changed here on iMore as well to allow this part of the forums to be viewed within the Tapatalk app?

Thanks in advance for looking into this.

**pkcable** · 08-17-2012, 01:32 PM

Yikes! That sucks! I will give Rene and Kevin a heads up.

**Rene Ritchie** · 08-17-2012, 01:46 PM

Hey guys,

We're aware of the issue and are trying to figure out the best way to serve as many needs as possible.

I know that is a sucky answer, but I'll post all the details as soon as I can.

Rene

**Irish Rose** · 08-17-2012, 02:31 PM

Thanks, PK! Also, thanks to you as well, Rene for this very quick response and for looking into this for us.

Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk.

**3cit** · 08-17-2012, 03:40 PM

I am extremely pleased to hear you all at imore being reactive to this!
I think it's a jerk move on the part of tapatalk (unless of course they were forced by apple)
I would like to recommend a rename of the section to "Cydia" and the sub section "Cydia tweaks and themes" and "Cydia unlocking and installation"

Therefore we avoid the dreaded jailbreak term, but everyone will know, because Cydia is synonymous with jailbreak

**kch50428** · 08-17-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by 3cit

Therefore we avoid the dreaded jailbreak term, but everyone will know, because Cydia is synonymous with jailbreak

Until Taptalk keys on 'Cydia'... Taptalk is the bogeyman.

**Rene Ritchie** · 08-17-2012, 03:50 PM

Tapatalk aren't being jerks.

I don't know how much I can get into it here, but sometimes you don't have the luck of the draw and you have to do the best you can with the hand you're dealt.

We can look into names like DIY Forum, but that might confuse readers.

The full forums are available via the web site and the mobile web site, so you'll always have a way to access everything.

Hopefully we'll figure out a way to give you many ways to access everything.

Rene

**Irish Rose** · 08-17-2012, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by 3cit

I am extremely pleased to hear you all at imore being reactive to this!
I think it's a jerk move on the part of tapatalk (unless of course they were forced by apple)
I would like to recommend a rename of the section to "Cydia" and the sub section "Cydia tweaks and themes" and "Cydia unlocking and installation"

Therefore we avoid the dreaded jailbreak term, but everyone will know, because Cydia is synonymous with jailbreak

I don't agree that this is a "Jerk" move on the part of Tapatalk. While I was annoyed with Tapatalk at first, it is looking like this issue is more about iMore, but we'll just have to wait till more facts are posted from Rene to know for sure. Also, renaming the forum with Cydia anywhere in the title isn't going to fix the issue, as Cydia is a well known jailbreak term. Might as well leave it as Jailbreak...

**Laelipoo** · 08-17-2012, 05:02 PM

I'm glad this is being looked into. Thank you PK and Rene.

Beamed from a galaxy far, far away using Tapatalk!

**Irish Rose** · 08-17-2012, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie

Tapatalk aren't being jerks.

I don't know how much I can get into it here, but sometimes you don't have the luck of the draw and you have to do the best you can with the hand you're dealt.

We can look into names like DIY Forum, but that might confuse readers.

The full forums are available via the web site and the mobile web site, so you'll always have a way to access everything.

Hopefully we'll figure out a way to give you many ways to access everything.

Rene

Appreciate the update, Rene. One reason I prefer to use Tapatalk VS the iMore mobile web site is that I like to upload pictures from my iPhones camera roll which is a feature that just isn't available from the mobile site..... One question I have here and might solve this whole thing is; Wasn't iMore working on their own app which would allow members to view as well as post on the forums? I thought I remember reading that on the main page a few months ago.

**pkcable** · 08-17-2012, 10:17 PM

I can assure you the Tapatalk guys are not jerks. I have worked directly with their primary blackberry programmer and he's a great guy and VERY accommodating. I have no clue what the situation is, BUT I have no doubt that this is something out of their control. My guess would be that Apple pressured them in to this.

**3cit** · 08-18-2012, 12:30 AM

Well it's a jerk move on apples part then. Somewhere, someone is being a jerk!
And I don't really care what the name is. I just figured that cydia would be something everyone understood... Perhaps too Many everyones! The DIY forum wouldnt be a bad idea... Also once everyone rolls their way in they would know where to return to... ,
I just like being able to access the forum from tapatalk, it's a much better way to peruse the forum. Obviously I am a big fan of the program as I use it daily... I listed it as one of my top 5 apps.
I am
Sure I will be pleased with whatever all the admins figure out

**Irish Rose** · 08-20-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by 3cit

Well it's a jerk move on apples part then. Somewhere, someone is being a jerk!
And I don't really care what the name is. I just figured that cydia would be something everyone understood... Perhaps too Many everyones! The DIY forum wouldnt be a bad idea... Also once everyone rolls their way in they would know where to return to... ,
I just like being able to access the forum from tapatalk, it's a much better way to peruse the forum. Obviously I am a big fan of the program as I use it daily... I listed it as one of my top 5 apps.
I am
Sure I will be pleased with whatever all the admins figure out

We don't know for sure what exactly the problem is, so before labeling anyone a "Jerk", I think we should all wait till all of the facts are in first.

Sent from my iPad LTE using Tapatalk HD.

**pkcable** · 08-20-2012, 05:05 PM

Jailbreaking is bad for apple from a customer service/support stand point. It could be as simple as them wanting to crack down as a way to help with support costs. While those of us who are technically inclided and who know and accept the risks, are not as much of a problem for apple, many folks who fooishly jailbreak, and then go to apple care for support when things go wrong ARE a BIG problem And of course we really don't know what has happened here.

**Alli** · 08-21-2012, 08:50 AM

How about "iOS Alternatives."

**3cit** · 08-21-2012, 10:46 AM

I second iOS alternatives...
However I would second "iOS blues clues" or "iOS confusing term" or "3cit stinks", anything so long as i am able to access the appropriate forum again!!!
I have no doubt you guys and gals at imore will figure it out, and I'm sure whatever it is, the users will figure it out, and im sure it will be as smooth as when we went from tipb to imore...

And as for my jerk comments... Somewhere, somebody, at some organization decided that tapatalk could no longer show the jailbreak section, which included the DIY mod section and the developer section as well as jailbreaking and unlocking....
So I am positive that I have enough facts to say that somewhere, somebody is a jerk!!!

**Irish Rose** · 08-21-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Alli

How about "iOS Alternatives."

Don't take this the wrong way, Alli, but I don't think the name fits. Reason I say this is, when I read this name I automatically thought of Android, as that is a true iOS alternative. If the name has to change in order for the forum to pass through Tapatalk I think it would be best if it related to "Hacking" or "Modding" as these are the two commonly known other names that are used in reference to jailbreaking and they are used on other forums therefore others that come here from those other forums will already be familiar with this section. That being said, I am sure whatever name "if any" that is chosen will be fine.

**Irish Rose** · 08-21-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by pkcable

And of course we really don't know what has happened here.

Couldn't agree with you more on this, pk, and that was my reason for starting this thread.

**ght** · 08-21-2012, 03:39 PM

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**Rene Ritchie** · 08-21-2012, 04:58 PM

So here's the deal:

We've been working really hard at getting a free, universal iMore Forums app into the App Store, and it wasn't going to happen with a Jailbreak Forum in the contents.

We tried 4 different times with no luck. Ultimately, we had to choose between not having the free app, and not including the Jailbreak forum in the free app.

Of course, we could have tried to game the system, or trick people, or what not, but that's not reliable or dependable, and that's not how we do things.

So, at least for now, we've chosen to have the app but not have it connect to the Jailbreak forum. I'm not sure why the main Tapatalk app itself is also affected, but I'm hoping there's a way to fix that.

Sorry for any inconvenience. It's not the solution we want, but it's the one we have for now.

Here's the new app:

Introducing the official iMore Forums app for iPhone and iPad! | iMore.com

**Paradocks** · 08-21-2012, 05:03 PM

Sounds like Apple is being the jerk.

Sent from somewhere

**Irish Rose** · 08-21-2012, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rene Ritchie

So here's the deal:

We've been working really hard at getting a free, universal iMore Forums app into the App Store, and it wasn't going to happen with a Jailbreak Forum in the contents.

We tried 4 different times with no luck. Ultimately, we had to choose between not having the free app, and not including the Jailbreak forum in the free app.

Of course, we could have tried to game the system, or trick people, or what not, but that's not reliable or dependable, and that's not how we do things.

So, at least for now, we've chosen to have the app but not have it connect to the Jailbreak forum. I'm not sure why the main Tapatalk app itself is also affected, but I'm hoping there's a way to fix that.

Sorry for any inconvenience. It's not the solution we want, but it's the one we have for now.

Here's the new app:

Introducing the official iMore Forums app for iPhone and iPad! | iMore.com

Thanks for the update, Rene.

What you said here makes sense and I remember this same thing happening with another forum app as well. No worries anymore about Talpatalk as it could be due to the same reason you said here....

**BLiNK** · 08-21-2012, 09:41 PM

i did download the iMore forums app and it's pretty cool. of course it's tapatalk driven so i'm trying to see the advantage if i already have tapatalk

also, Rose, there's a screenshot with you in it in the app store!

**sherlock** · 08-22-2012, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Paradocks

Sounds like Apple is being the jerk.

If this is the case are there any jailbreak forum apps similar to Tapatalk? I miss being able to be on the forums...

Rene, don't let apple push you around - I'm sure the Cydia store will take a fully functional iMore app!

**3cit** · 08-22-2012, 01:41 AM

I was really quite happy here at imore, it had an active, mostly intelligent, jailbreak community and other forum sections were quite entertaining too.
BUT Seeing as my main interest is the jailbreaking section, and my main method of access is tapatalk I don't think I'll be hanging around here much more.
Sucks for me