How to avoid this iMessage problem if upgrading iPhones???
Seems this is an issue for folks that are selling their iP4 and upgrading to 4S. Anyone know a way to prevent this issue if selling an iPhone 4 with iOS 5.0.1 and upgrading to a 4S?
- 12-21-2011, 10:47 AM #2
Well if you read the article, it mentioned specifically stolen or lost iPhones. If you sell it, surely you aren't giving them your existing SIM card right?
This ONLY affects stolen or lost iPhones as the article clearly said.
Sell it and there is no problem as many people I am sure have done on here.
Last edited by ghostface147; 12-21-2011 at 10:49 AM.
- 12-21-2011, 12:56 PM #3
- 12-21-2011, 01:01 PM #4
- 12-21-2011, 01:04 PM #5
I have always wondered about this.... It's my understanding that when you activate a new iphone (and the new sim that comes in the phone) then the old sim is automatically deactivated and no longer associated with the existing phone number. Is this not correct?
- 12-21-2011, 01:08 PM #6
Here's a post in tipb.com from someone who sold his iphone and is having iMessages issues.
ChadF 14 hours ago
I can confirm this happened to me! I sold my iPhone 4 to supplement the purchase of my iPhone 4s. Shortly before selling I upgraded to IOS5. I DID complete a full wipe of all data. I sold to a small local wireless reseller shop and they sold the phone. The new owner got ALL my iMessage texts. (my phone was Verizon BTW)
No solution after calling support and web searches. The reseller finally got back in contact with the new owner and they agreed to turn off iMessage altogether in the settings as a workaround. I am taking their word, they very well could still be getting all my texts. (note only the texts that travel over wifi and through iMessage were being routed to both the old iPhone 4 and my new iPhone 4s)
- 12-21-2011, 01:11 PM #7
How does it affect Verizon iPhones? There's not a SIM card in an iP4, so would the information still be locked into the device? I bought my iPhone 4 from eBay, and even though it had been wiped and reset to factory settings, when I download certain apps that the previous owner used, it still tries to tie some information to the previous owners account. How would iMessage be affected if I upgraded to an iPhone 4S/5/whatever since there isn't a SIM card to deal with?
- 12-21-2011, 01:16 PM #8
On the Apple Support forum, that Ars Technica referenced, the user ended up creating another Apple ID and the problem went away.
I *think* the issue is twofold: 1)old number on de-activated/activated SIM 2)Apple ID that was being used in the iphone.
One would think that when you wipe the iphone, it TRULY wipes EVERYTHING, but ChadF who sold his iphone did wipe his iphone.
This is definitely confusing.
- 12-21-2011, 01:21 PM #9
- 12-21-2011, 01:28 PM #10
That is strange I don't see how this would happen with iMessage getting set to receiving messages to a new phone number .. Maybe the iMessage setting was set to the email not the number .. I know when I was switching between the two I would have to do a hard reset for it to actually take affect. .. I doubt any of those settings are there because the info was wiped.
I switched from iPhone 4 to 4s no issues and know the person with the 4 and everything worked fine after I wiped and sold. Has to be a issue on iMessage server end or something.
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- 12-21-2011, 01:47 PM #11
^ I'm thinking the same thing, that maybe it had something to do with the email associated with the Apple ID? I have noticed that with the last two iphones I wiped before selling, I had to go into the store under settings and actually sign my Apple ID out. I have left the sims in both of my old iphones prior to selling and haven't had an issue with anything like this.
- 12-21-2011, 01:49 PM #12
- 12-21-2011, 02:44 PM #13
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- 12-21-2011, 03:50 PM #15
I think it's more of a device ID being registered on Apple servers than it is a sim card issue. An iPhone using gsm or CDMA without a cell connection is essentially an iPod touch. The ID is registered. So it's an issue that Apple clearly needs to fix.
- 12-21-2011, 08:53 PM #16
- 12-22-2011, 05:51 AM #17
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