1. RavenSword's Avatar
    So, I'm wanting to finally buy my very first iMac. However, I have several questions.

    I'm wondering if refurbished iMacs bought from Apple are a good deal or not. How rigorous is there inspection and are they essentially like new? There was this 21 inch iMac 2015 I was dying that was about 900 dollars.

    My second question is whether Apple offers any kind of monthly payment program or financing. I don't really have the ability to just drop 1,000 plus dollars on a new computer right now, so if I can just make payments on it that would be great and maybe I can even get a better computer if I do that then the 2015 21 inch iMac. But is Apple financing, if they offer it, a good deal if I always make my payments? And about how much would I be expecting to pay monthly on, say, a 2016 27inch iMac if I go that route?

    And finally my last question is between the 21 inch and 27inch iMacs. I have a relatively small room and that's why I was eying the 21 inch, but is the 27inch just demonsterably better? I am not sure if I'd notice the difference of a 54000 rpm drive vs a fusion or whether id really appreciate the difference of 1080p vs 5k.

    Anyway, thank you for the help.
    07-10-2016 12:50 PM
  2. firedept10's Avatar
    1. Refurbs from Apple are every bit as good as new if not better. Apple does a rigorous check on them before reselling them.
    2. Apple does have financing available and you can check it out here. I can not tell you how it works or what their rates are.
    3. I own both a 20.5" & 27" and can tell you that there is a considerable difference in size. So if you even think you do not have the room for a 27", go with the 21". There is a huge difference between a 5400 & fusion. I have fusion drives & SSD's in all my Macs and would not consider anything less than a fusion drive these days. It is night & day difference in speed. As for 1080 or 5K, save your money. There is a difference, but unless you are a photographer or editing high end, there is no need for 5K.
    07-10-2016 01:11 PM
  3. Tartarus's Avatar
    Refurbished devices in general are tested more rigorously than non-refurbished devices. Once a Mac or iMac or any other device fails the quality check at the and of the manufacturing line, the faulty parts are removed and replaced with working ones.

    Same goes for when a faulty device comes back under guarantee. The first buyer gets a new one and the one brought in gets checked very thoroughly, repaired and checked again before finally hitting the store, to be sold once again. Therefor I think personally it's safe to say that refurbished devices are less prone to malfunction than stock ones.

    As for your second question, the local store will provide you with the best answer regarding payment plans if they have any.
    07-10-2016 01:13 PM
  4. RavenSword's Avatar
    Refurbished devices in general are tested more rigorously than non-refurbished devices. Once a Mac or iMac or any other device fails the quality check at the and of the manufacturing line, the faulty parts are removed and replaced with working ones.

    Same goes for when a faulty device comes back under guarantee. The first buyer gets a new one and the one brought in gets checked very thoroughly, repaired and checked again before finally hitting the store, to be sold once again. Therefor I think personally it's safe to say that refurbished devices are less prone to malfunction than stock ones.

    As for your second question, the local store will provide you with the best answer regarding payment plans if they have any.
    Do you think they have the financing available for the refurbisheds?
    07-10-2016 01:39 PM
  5. Tartarus's Avatar
    Do you think they have the financing available for the refurbisheds?
    Firedept10 has provided a link with more information about Apple's Payment Plans.

    2. Apple does have financing available and you can check it out here. I can not tell you how it works or what their rates are.
    07-10-2016 01:51 PM
  6. firedept10's Avatar
    Do you think they have the financing available for the refurbisheds?
    Yes. Anything on their site.
    07-10-2016 02:18 PM
  7. RavenSword's Avatar
    Should I really worry about having more than 8gbs of ram or the integrated graphics vs dedicated GPU? Really I'm just going to use this computer for basic stuff and some less challenging games like DOTA or something.
    07-10-2016 02:41 PM
  8. RavenSword's Avatar
    And maybe ripping my movies to plex
    07-10-2016 02:42 PM
  9. RavenSword's Avatar
    So, I bought a 27 inch 5k iMac through apples financing. My only concern is that when removing the computer from its various styrofoam holders and its cover sleeves, I accumulated static build up. I touched the computers back casing, unplugged, and felt a static shock. Did I potentially damage my new computer or is it safe?
    07-10-2016 07:49 PM
  10. phreddyl's Avatar
    I'm sure it's fine and congrats on your new Mac
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    07-10-2016 08:16 PM
  11. RavenSword's Avatar
    I'm sure it's fine and congrats on your new Mac
    I'm sure your right. I mean, I wasn't even plugged into power and I'm sure the components are insulated against such things, right? Computer seems to be running fine
    07-10-2016 08:40 PM
  12. phreddyl's Avatar
    It's fine. Enjoy it. I love mine
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    07-10-2016 08:42 PM
  13. robertk328's Avatar
    Congrats on the new iMac! You got a good one
    07-10-2016 08:44 PM
  14. firedept10's Avatar
    I'm sure your right. I mean, I wasn't even plugged into power and I'm sure the components are insulated against such things, right? Computer seems to be running fine
    Congrats on the new machine. Quit worrying about the little things and start enjoying that new machine. You can do no harm to the machine from a static shock to the outside of it.
    07-10-2016 08:46 PM
  15. RavenSword's Avatar
    Congrats on the new iMac! You got a good one
    Thanks. I specifically made sure to get the fusion drive variant. I love the machine so far, it's just I've been using Windows for so long there's some adjusting to do. Like, I didn't know that clicking the red x doesn't actually close the program. Crazy, ha ha
    07-10-2016 09:27 PM
  16. RavenSword's Avatar
    Congrats on the new machine. Quit worrying about the little things and start enjoying that new machine. You can do no harm to the machine from a static shock to the outside of it.
    That's good to know. I kinda figured that Apple would design these things to take ESD into account as well, huh
    07-10-2016 09:28 PM
  17. Tartarus's Avatar
    That's good to know. I kinda figured that Apple would design these things to take ESD into account as well, huh
    I'm pretty sure that's a common thing in this kind of stuff.

    Try to enjoy your Mac and stop worrying. It's not made out of ice, it won't melt upon touching.
    07-10-2016 09:39 PM
  18. RavenSword's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure that's a common thing in this kind of stuff.

    Try to enjoy your Mac and stop worrying. It's not made out of ice, it won't melt upon touching.
    I just know that static electricity and computers don't mix
    07-10-2016 10:17 PM
  19. Tartarus's Avatar
    I just know that static electricity and computers don't mix
    I know, I build computers for a living. A human being doesn't feel static electricity till 2000v whereas 100v is enough to ruin hardware.

    But once computers and laptops for consumers are fully assembled, that risk is accounted for. Or consumers would have broken computers or laptops every single day.
    07-10-2016 11:44 PM
  20. RavenSword's Avatar
    I know, I build computers for a living. A human being doesn't feel static electricity till 2000v whereas 100v is enough to ruin hardware.

    But once computers and laptops for consumers are fully assembled, that risk is accounted for. Or consumers would have broken computers or laptops every single day.
    So once it's in the case enclosure, even if it's made a aluminum , the components are pretty safe from static and stuff?
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    07-11-2016 12:17 AM
  21. Trees's Avatar
    It's fine. Tartarus is correct.
    07-11-2016 06:32 AM
  22. Tartarus's Avatar
    So once it's in the case enclosure, even if it's made a aluminum , the components are pretty safe from static and stuff?
    That's correct.
    07-11-2016 06:56 AM
  23. robertk328's Avatar
    So once it's in the case enclosure, even if it's made a aluminum , the components are pretty safe from static and stuff?
    Yeah once you start opening it up and working on the internals, then you're at risk. But all closed up like that, no worries.
    07-11-2016 07:48 AM
  24. RavenSword's Avatar
    Yeah once you start opening it up and working on the internals, then you're at risk. But all closed up like that, no worries.
    Ok. I wonder if it would even power on if there was static damage anyway.
    07-11-2016 12:25 PM
  25. RavenSword's Avatar
    So I actually called apple support , just to ask. Guy said everything's cool because he said the motherboard and components are grounded and insulated so touching the case would t even hit the components, it just go through the metal of the case. Also, he said the thing would t even power on if it had damage to it. So, that finally puts my mind at ease and I can enjoy my computer now
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    07-11-2016 12:44 PM
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