- 11-02-2011, 09:29 AM #51
- 11-02-2011, 09:58 AM #52
- 11-02-2011, 12:11 PM #53
- 11-02-2011, 06:46 PM #54
- 11-03-2011, 12:57 AM #55
Apple issued an update - 5.0.1 - and I've installed it on my two iPhones. I can offer that Apple's indicated bug fix - notifications are working better for iCloud-related notifications - is working hugely better.
I'm as twitchy about my email as anyone here, and I'm pleased with the progress Apple has made with 5.0.1 and it's only been about 4 hours. Notifications are popping in even when the Mail and Messages apps aren't working in the background - I checked...
- 11-03-2011, 01:17 AM #56
Look, Apple iCloud push is like RIM BB BIS (which I used for years) - your account gets polled, email shows up in the polling, the server then pushes a *notification* that there's new email - you open the email client and the client refreshes (either when you open it up or according to the fetch schedule - for BIS it's the refresh action). You might actually have email, but the polling notification is what we're really looking for. Complicating this - is the carriers: I have an ATTWS device and a VZW device - my ATTWS iPhone 4 regularly notifies me first consistently I have something new going on, and I found that to be true with my BBs as well 9 times out of 10, but we're only talking a matter of minutes; our phones go into network sleep mode all of the time, partly to save power and partly because we're not the only ones hooking up to an antenna for a cell phone signal.
For the iPhone, and iCloud, they're still working on it. 5.0.1 came out tonight and it's working better already for notifications - two of my attorneys are pinging me tonight and both devices are working much better than just yesterday with the same settings.... I'm sticking with Fetch with 15-minute polling, FWIW. Back to work...
Well, I've done some serious testing over the past week or so, and thanks to bonesb, I've learnt a lot, too.
For now, since my current @me.com email address isn't even 'out there', I'm simply going to stick with GMail. Me being a gadget person that I am, it is probably a very good idea in case I even want to switch to another OS, and not have any hassle with data, i.e. Calendar, Contacts, etc.
All that to say, I hope as bonesb has said, that iOS 5.0.1 is\will work much better, and will allow iCloud email to work 'better' all round.
- 11-03-2011, 05:52 PM #58
Wow, I thought I was the only one experiencing issues with my "mac/me.com" e-mail account.
My iCloud e-mail messages are not being pushed to my iPhone, I have to manually "pull" them on a periodic basis to ensure I am not missing or replying to e-mails late.
My Gmail messages are being pushed just fine on a real-time basis.
I too, have been a paying MobileMe customer for 7 years and was hoping iCloud would improve upon, not make the e-mail service worse! Grrrrr.......
- 11-03-2011, 11:49 PM #59
The iOS Mail client supports push email for Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail/Live, and EAS - and push *notifications" for iCloud/MM. It's clear to me - the workaround is fetch polling. For those out there that think that push is all "it", there's tens of millions out there that are thrilled and so proud of their BIS-supported BB devices, and the BIS poll period is 15 minutes. Constant polling burns through battery life quickly. Apple just signed up millions of new iPhone users, and iOS 5 is a x.0 release - it's bound to be buggy. Deal with it, and I'm not being snarky to anyone. Apple's email shouldn't be mission-critical for anyone, including myself. For the record (and anyone who cares?), I've been with Apple's email since day one with iTools, over a decade, using Apples since the IIe - I don't trust Apple's new servers either. iCloud's been up and running for about two weeks, I had to restart my iMac so Mail would work again today - got a shot of Maker's Mark during the reboot and got back to work. And, Mail was working again. And both of my iPhones are getting email at different times despite being on the same WiFi network and fetch schedule (my VZW iPhone is lagging again).
Keep in mind that it's not all Apple - network issues and carrier data hiccups can interrupt notification delivery. I was bent today when my VZW iPhone wasn't on top of things and almost missed some texts from a client - reading through the iPCU Console, VZW was having data problems today in my area for 4 hours, so it's on them and I spend THOUSANDS on their services each year for my company. So, tourstagefan, be sure it's on Apple before you growl...