- 10-28-2011, 03:03 PM #26iMore Newbie
- 30 Posts
This has been pissing me off to no end too. Ive been paying for MobileMe for years now and I migrate to iCloud and email delivery sucks. Im missing or not getting important emails. I see the battery life has been an issue, but not one blog has mentioned anything about iCloud not pushing email. Im extremely frustrated. Heres a thread on apple discussion forum. look over to the right under related topics, tons of them over 1,000 replies to iCloud not pushing email, havent heard a word about it on the blogs.
- 10-30-2011, 01:43 PM #27
Google's native calendar, its implementation of CalDAV supports two alarms/reminders - as does iCloud/iCal. It's CalDAV that supports two alarms/reminders.
One can run Google EAS and Google Calendar simultaneously, alongside each other. Google EAS will only support one alarm/reminder per event - period.
Of course, all of this is documented in each entity's help.
- 10-30-2011, 02:13 PM #28
Yahoo has its own proprietary flavor of "push" - but it's not true push email either. The Mail app does support IMAP IDLE for other providers, including Google. Go figure.
I switched my iCloud accounts to Fetch and no longer have delivery issues. YMMV. Apple does need to get their act together. I don't use my Apple accounts for mission-critical correspondence, giving up on them some time ago.
- 10-31-2011, 10:38 AM #31iMore Intermediate
- 178 Posts
On my iPhone 4, I turned on Push for mail temporarily (I usually Fetch) and turned it on for my iCloud account. I sent an email from Gmail on the web, to my me.com address on iCloud and within 10 seconds my banner popped up to notify me that I had a new email. Seems like Push is working.
- 10-31-2011, 01:55 PM #33
My iCloud account doesn't work with my Mac mail client. For some reason I can set it up fine and it will sync and then a while later I get a pop up asking for the password and I'll type it in and it won't work. I've tried deleting the account on the mail client and it does the same thing each time. Any suggestions?
- 10-31-2011, 02:47 PM #35
- 11-01-2011, 12:22 AM #36
If you'd use Outlook on a real Exchange account (Mac or Windows), you'd have a "Main" account. On Google, you'd have a "Main" account. We don't communicate with our iPhones through "Exchange" - though that's what our iOS device categorizes some of our accounts as; Google EAS is NOT Exchange - it's Google's implementation of EAS, and EAS is not Exchange. Regardless of this, and to address your question, on our iOS devices and through an Exchange account multiple alarms is not possible. Period. However, Google in their native iOS Gmail account uses CalDAV - and CalDAV allows for setting multiple alarms for each event (and so does Google CalDAV), so when we're using the Google web interface or iCal or iOS device we're essentially we're accessing CalDAV (rather, Google's implementation of CalDAV).
I know there's a lot of frustrated people out there, and on this forum, but it's Google and Apple that aren't documenting a "matrix" of what we can do with each account on our devices. I access my Google Premier Account email via the native client, but Google doesn't allow me to delete an email from the Mail client by their design when I swipe when it's a native Google account (I can only archive) but I can delete an email from an EAS (Exchange) account - go figure. So, I set up my work Google account for EAS but limit it to email only, and as a Google account for calendaring so I can set multiple alarms. Maddening? Yes, absolutely. I learned to take advantage of these services so that they work for me and not to get so nuckin futz about it...
Not to mix providers here, but think about this. Hotmail - it's POP on the Mac and Windows, but iOS supports IMAP and the desktop clients don't. iOS supports delegate calendars (as CalDAV but the desktops do not) - actually better than Windows Phone 7. iOS supports reminders but both desktop platforms don't. Same for Yahoo accounts...
Exchange for Google, isn't. It's Google's implementation of EAS - but they generally list what they use and what they don't in their Help section. Exchange does not support multiple alarms on iOS and, therefore, Google's implementation of EAS on iOS does not (including mapping of calendar colors). Google's implementation of CalDAV on iOS does support multiple alarms (including mapping of calendar colors). Google supports almost instantaneous updating of calendars via Google EAS, but (about) 15 minute updating via Google CalDAV. There's more - it's all documented, you've just got to pick what's more important to you. At least Google gives us options...
- 11-01-2011, 12:30 AM #37
Apple - Support - iCloud - System Status
I'm an iOS developer, the Status page is on my list of bookmarks. I know that others are trying to be helpful, and devs have access to a list of forum threads the general public does not. Frankly, iCloud is a work in progress - the devs had exactly the same password problem for several weeks before it's public release, on iOS and desktop clients. Besides the whole "woulda/shoulda/shoulda" thing, iCloud was having issues just yesterday, again - I checked. While at least one user was trying to be helpful, it was and is Apple's problem (I was having problems too and saw the status issues for myself). It's not you, it's them...
- 11-01-2011, 12:48 AM #38
So you "got lucky" - I used to test my iPhone on iOS 3/4 against my BB (both BES and BIS), and it was a crapshoot. It's still a crapshoot. The iOS Mail app supports IDLE only when it's open. The Mail app badge uses XMPP notifications for iCloud mail - not push. Don't believe me, download the iPhone Configuration Utility and read the console feedback for yourself...
- 11-01-2011, 07:47 AM #39
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- 11-02-2011, 01:26 AM #45
I set mine to Fetch, with a 15 minute interval, and I get email to all of my accounts without issue and on time and with resolved/reconciled accounts. QED. I have a tablet with an email client capable of IMAP IDLE for all of my accounts (including iCloud/MM accounts) and get notifications on it about the same time as my two iPhones running Fetch. Let's hope Apple figures out how to work out XMPP notifications sometime soon...
- 11-02-2011, 01:33 AM #46
I'm donating my planned IT budget to a food bank, thanks in part to Apple's stuff working as expected.
- 11-02-2011, 01:44 AM #47
Fix a Lion file-opening hang in Mac OS X 10.7.2 | Macworld
Follow the instructions, and your ills may be addressed. Short version, and I can't get into it here, but during iOS beta testing I discovered a new profile in each of my iPhones during beta testing, and I worked through it with Apple Security - they deemed it was not a threat, and instructed me to delete the profile from each of my iPhones. My iPhones weren't working well during that beta, until I deleted the Profile and rebooted my iPhones. iCloud services were working much better after that...
The name of the suspect profile included the name "Ubiquity". Apple never fessed up as to how the profile was installed on my iPhones. I've removed the Ubiquity directory from my Mac a few times, and iCloud always works better afterward. YMMV.
- 11-02-2011, 05:15 AM #48
I haven't been experiencing issues with push (or whatever other technology it uses).
I just sent an email to my self from my Gmail account. The Mac OSX client received it exactly 18 secs later and iOS (locked and laying on the table) received it after OSX by 3 secs (21 secs).
There are times when I unlock my iPhone and couple emails get pushed at that moment, but it happened very few times since iOS 5 was out.
- 11-02-2011, 07:58 AM #50