Yikes, I don't like iCloud, not one bit....
First, the new "feature" of having all paid apps show up on all my iDevices is a little intrusive. What if I purchased an app/book/something that I don't want my family to see or download. Maybe a sex type app, and I don't want the kids to download it. I can think of a few instances that this would become a problem.
As far as I can tell, there is no way to edit this list in any way. It is just a dump of all downloads on a given account, to all devices.
I think there will be similar issues with photos as well.
Where is the privacy?
I'll tell you where, in your pocketbook.
This is going to be Apple's way of forcing families to have multiple itunes accounts. No more buying Angry Birds once, and synching it to all other family members. Songs? No way, buy them for all accounts... Books? Same thing.
I am very excited about some of the features, but am worried about a lot more.
Last edited by mclark2112; 06-07-2011 at 02:43 PM.
- 06-07-2011, 02:53 PM #2
I also would think there could be settings that deal with this - for example, in iTunes there is a setting that allows me to set whether any new app would automatically get synced onto my ipad and I can change that.
- 06-07-2011, 02:54 PM #3
- 06-07-2011, 02:54 PM #4
- 06-07-2011, 02:58 PM #5
- 06-07-2011, 06:33 PM #6
Your app history is now available to everyone.
This gives us a glimpse as to where Apple is heading. I can only assume with iOS 5 that this will be an even bigger issue.
- 06-08-2011, 07:59 AM #8
- 06-08-2011, 08:45 AM #9
They allow you to turn off auto update and auto download, currently in the Store settings of your Settings app on your iDevice.
A work around for the purchased hiding, is to log out of your account to hide it, unless the person knows your password. (To log out: Settings > Store > Apple ID > Sign Out)
- 06-08-2011, 09:37 AM #10
I'm sorry, but that sounds like me complaining that if I give my wife my email account information then she can see my email.
If you have just one account for your family then how would you expect Apple to differentiate?
I just don't really see how this is a real privacy issue - now if they exposed your apps or info to people outside of your account then I would agree.
- 06-08-2011, 09:54 AM #11
- 06-08-2011, 11:08 AM #12
I must agree. I had the same concerns in respect of photo sync. If I take a picture of something on my phone that I might be planning to buy my child as a surprise, it's automatically downloaded to her iPhone because we share an account.
Also, to the person who asked why one would share an account, I do it because my child has had different Apple devices since she was quite small. And, she's still relatively young. It wouldn't be appropriate, to my mind, to give a small child their own account, so instead we have one for our family. That may not be your situation, but there is good reason for a family aco**** in others' households.
- 06-08-2011, 11:09 AM #13
- 06-08-2011, 11:52 AM #14
Ya'll seem to have a lot of this confused. The appleid you use for apps, books, and music is seperate from what will be created for you @me.com labels. Photos from firstname.lastname@example.org won't be synced to email@example.com because they're different identities for backups, mail, calendars etc. You can still share your appleid, with others and not have to pay for mutltiple apps. Yes the history does show, but it would show anyway if you OPENLY SHARE YOUR ACCOUNT. So, basically, your appleid you've purchased things with will still share apps/mus/books....you'll all now have sub @me.com accounts specific to device and user that will sync photos, mail, cal, backups, etc....and wont be shared with others even though you share an appleid.....
Last edited by touchyphone; 06-08-2011 at 11:54 AM.
- 06-08-2011, 12:46 PM #15
I would hope you can do something like disable the automatic upload of images, for example, that would work with that example you gave.
- 06-08-2011, 12:55 PM #16
It would only make sense that all purchased content would show up on each device using the same apple id. With apps, music, and books you get the cloud icon for previously purchased content and the ability to re-download it. The content will not automatically download to the device unless the option to do so is checked in settings.
In my case all that is fine. My wife, son, and I all share an apple id for purchases. Do you have a source for the firstname.lastname@example.org info you stated? Is this info posted to the apple site anywhere? I would love for this to be the case when icloud ships for everyone. I would love the ability to use a separate id to keep my backups, contacts, calendar, photos and email in sync on my iphone, ipad, and mac and also separate from my wife and sons devices.
Last edited by spades1412; 06-08-2011 at 12:59 PM.
- 06-08-2011, 01:03 PM #17
Everyone in your house should have their own account, it's free after all. Why would you just use one? I guess it makes sense if you want to cheat developers and share apps, but really at 99 cents each for most apps do you need to do that? People work really hard to make that 99 cents from you and you are effectively stealing from them by allowing someone else to use the same application for free. If you're using one account to share content, you deserve to be inconvenienced and I highly doubt Apple is ever going to change their policies or the functionality of their devices to accommodate you.
Nothing personal, just giving a little reality check on this subject.
I am using iOS 5 Beta 1, and it is clearly not allowing me to change the account that I use for iCloud without changing the account that I use for the iTunes store. So, I think you are wrong here, but this might be changed in the future, because you need an @me account for certain iCloud features but many people already have Apple IDs with purchase information that they need.
Last edited by Jellotime91; 06-08-2011 at 01:07 PM.
- 06-08-2011, 01:48 PM #18
- 06-08-2011, 03:45 PM #21
Also, if you share an account. Your previous downloaded apps are recorded via email record, and if you share an ID it could be accessed that way too.
- 06-08-2011, 03:46 PM #22
- 06-08-2011, 04:19 PM #23
[QUOTE=Jellotime91;1728703]Everyone in your house should have their own account, it's free after all. Why would you just use one? I guess it makes sense if you want to cheat developers and share apps, but really at 99 cents each for most apps do you need to do that? People work really hard to make that 99 cents from you and you are effectively stealing from them by allowing someone else to use the same application for free. If you're using one account to share content, you deserve to be inconvenienced and I highly doubt Apple is ever going to change their policies or the functionality of their devices to accommodate you.
Most of my downloads are free. So, it's hardly an issue that I'm focused on cheating developers. It's moreso an issue that I, as a parent, want to monitor and assist my child who's not yet ready to have an account alone. Moreover, what I'm doing is fully allowed in the terms of service. If developers disagree, they have every right to challenge Apple's policy, but that's not a reason why I should stop using a family account. Indeed, Apple encourages family sharing by creating services like Home Sharing. With that in mind, this is the forum for trying to understand how people in my situation will manage through the new iOS. No hostility intended.
- 06-08-2011, 04:26 PM #24iPhone Intermediate
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I find your argument lacking. If you are permitted 5 devices for said app, I assure you they meant your personal devices (not wife, mother, sister, dog).
That option exists in case you invested in an iPhone, iPod, iPad, etc. To say you bought all the devices so you are using "as intended" is disingenuous imo.
I own a iPhone and iPad while I bought my mom an iPhone. We use different IDs. Yes, that means we purchase each app per user not per device (as intended imo)
Example: i should not have to pay $60 twice to install Navigon on my iPhone and iPad but my mom SHOULD have to pay $60 for her copy
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Last edited by P0stalTek; 06-08-2011 at 04:30 PM.
- 06-08-2011, 06:36 PM #25