I just wanted to make a post about some important limitations to HomeKit, as I see them from using Matthias's Home app. I'd be interested to hear any other limitations, or how people are coping with the limitations.
1) You must be on the same wifi network as your hubs for your phone to control your HomeKit compatible devices. You need to have an Apple TV on the network to get remote access.
2) Sunrise/Sunset is not available as a time nor an event trigger. This means you can't set a certain scene everyday at sunset the way you can in IFTTT. It can be used as a condition to an Event Trigger (i.e. only fires After Sunrise).
3) Time triggers cannot use conditions (this is a HomeKit bug). For example you can't have a trigger do: set the Relax scene everyday at 8PM ONLY IF a light in that scene is already on (because if someone has manually turned the lights off I don't want to turn them back on automatically).
4) Triggers cannot be set to be activated only on certain days of the week. I would find it helpful to have certain triggers be active on the weekdays, and different ones on the weekend, much like I have different alarms for weekdays/the weekend.
5) Another person's location cannot be used as a condition in a trigger. For example, I can't create a trigger to turn off all the lights when I leave the house ONLY IF my wife is also not at home. I can create a trigger to turn off all the lights when I leave, but it will activate regardless of whether or not my wife is home. A workaround might be if you have some sort of occupancy sensors.
- 01-28-2016, 04:47 PM #2iMore Nanite
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Re: HomeKit Limitations
1) Wouldn't call that a limitation since there is a way... But yes, it sucks to be obligated to buy an apple tv. But I believe that has more security measures.
2) Don't believe it to be a homekit limitation but an app limitation since it doesn't really depend on homekit but on the app information retrieval. It's possible that there might be an app that allows that.
3) Yes, it would be cool to have iffs. Since an app can check if a light is on or off, I think there's no reason not to be possible to use that kind of automation.
4) Yes you can, i use idevices app but there are a lot of homekit apps that you can program things like that, even the philips hue app allows that (but only for philips hue).
5) Yes, that would be great, hope the homekit improves in that way on another version.
6) Siri not always works, probably a buggy siri.
7) Applications that allow hue lights to do continued scenes like blinking and changing colors and so on, have to be openned for the effect to appen. Don't know how it is with an apple tv at home but they should be allowed to use some icloud memory or something to be sending the information to the bulbs. I believe hue bridge don't allow those automations to be programmed to hapen at certain times but we should be abble to have those programmings (complex event triggers) if we owned an apple tv, using cloud or apple tv memory to send those informations at the programmed time.
Anyway, homekit is still somewhat a new thing and they might improve it, but still basic things like those should be implemented soon and apple usually takes lots of time to make those kind of improvements.
Re: HomeKit Limitations
Welcome to the HomeKit forum, it's rather quiet and I'd like to see it livened up.
Regardless, if I own an Apple TV I think it should work such that timed events occur whether or not anyone is home. Since everything is synced up to iCloud, events should be stored there and executed automatically, even if my phone is turned off. That's how I think it should work for both timed events, and triggered events (i.e. if someone unlocks an August lock the lights automatically turn on if it's after 5pm).
- 01-29-2016, 05:41 PM #4
- 02-14-2016, 04:44 PM #5
HomeKit in iOS 9 removes the need for an Apple TV, however the HomeKit device manufacturer has to support it too. Otherwise, you're stuck with needing an Apple TV. It is missing now, but the Ecobee Faq previously mentioned that a software and hardware update would be required for remote HomeKit features without an Apple TV.
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