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    Default Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    I've been spending the day pouring over information about the OnePlus One android phone. It's going to launch with cutting edge hardware specs, quality build materials, and a respected version of android free of carrier and OEM bloatware -Cyanogen - and get updates directly. It's already being called significantly better than Google's nexus phones by reviewers who have it so far, and will cost less.

    So here's the question. Aside from OS preference or whether you're already invested in android or iOS apps, what incentive is there to buy a $700 iphone , or android for that matter, when they're making this available contract free and unlocked for less than half the price?
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    However, you can't really buy the OnePlus one right now without an invite, so the phone is really a niche product at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    I've been spending the day pouring over information about the OnePlus One android phone. It's going to launch with cutting edge hardware specs, quality build materials, and a respected version of android free of carrier and OEM bloatware -Cyanogen - and get updates directly. It's already being called significantly better than Google's nexus phones by reviewers who have it so far, and will cost less.

    So here's the question. Aside from OS preference or whether you're already invested in android or iOS apps, what incentive is there to buy a $700 iphone , or android for that matter, when they're making this available contract free and unlocked for less than half the price?
    I like it because of the OS. iOS is a huge reason why I continue buying Apple products. Another reason is the integration with the rest of my Apple stuff. I can type a note on my iPad and have it appear on my iPhone, iPod, or Mac, which is a great feature I enjoy having. Another is the ease-of-use. I don't have to do workarounds just to get my phone to work, I just pull it out of the box and go. That's my incentive for continually buying iPhones.
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    You may not see it being immediately apparent, but with lower prices comes compromises, even if they still make some profit out of the sales. iPhones have a build of aluminium and chamfered edges, something that you wouldn't find in the Nexus 5 or the OnePlus One or something's that is heavily subsidised by manufacturers.
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    Default An interesting question

    Please don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone cares about specs because they don't. Furthermore, don't assume that since you've come to the conclusion that a certain device is technologically superior to any other that everyone will automatically opt to get it because they won't. People like what they like and people want what they want. Personally speaking, I've paid little to no attention to nonApple smartphones. Why? Because I am content with what the iPhone offers me. I don't care what anyone else buys or likes, and I don't care if device A is technologically superior or what anyone thinks about what I opt to buy. I like the iPhone and will continue to buy the iPhone for as long as it satisfies my smartphone need. That is why me and others will pay $700 for an iPhone instead of opting for a device with cutting edge specs and comes unlocked and contract-free....
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    Amen D! I don't pay attention to specs nor do I care. I use an iPhone because it's what works for me. It meets all of my needs, period. I don't need to look at other phones.
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    Like statistics, specs can be misleading. I like the iPhone, regardless of any specs comparison. They are meaningless. Impressive looking specs are for use as a selling tool. 10 mp camera sounds better than 8 mp camera. Yet the 8 mp one will make better photos. They don't tell you everything.
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    I'm not disagreeing with any of the above, but I can't help but wonder if those factors are really worth $400 more.
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    I'll preface this by saying that that gave up iPhone a while back, I've also used Androids and currently I'm happy with my Blackberry.

    That said...
    If I suddenly HAD to switch and my only choices were iPhone or Android, I'd go with iPhone for one reason:
    Every Android I have ever owned has forced software updates on me and every time, it turned out to be disastrous.
    So with Apple, just as with Android, you can't go back once the update is installed however Apple doesn't force updates on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with any of the above, but I can't help but wonder if those factors are really worth $400 more.
    Is it worth it to get your wife or girlfriend what you know SHE wants or risk her being disappointed by getting her what YOU think is best for her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedygi View Post
    However, you can't really buy the OnePlus one right now without an invite, so the phone is really a niche product at this point.
    I got an invite! So far 4 of my friends have the phone.

    Oh, but I'm still going to spend $700+ on my iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe'D View Post
    Is it worth it to get your wife or girlfriend what you know SHE wants or risk her being disappointed by getting her what YOU think is best for her?
    Not sure what you mean, I'm not buying anyone anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    Not sure what you mean, I'm not buying anyone anything
    My reply was in regard to your comment "...I can't help but wonder if those factors are really worth $400 more." I was basically trying to show that the "$400 more" can be worth it depending on its importance to the buyer.
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    Default Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    Better specs do not necessarily equate to a better user experience. Getting an unlocked device does not guarantee that the device will be used on another network, and getting it at a reduced price doesn't necessarily mean it's a good deal...
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    If you give me one I'll sell it to buy an iPhone.
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    Different people perceive value differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with any of the above, but I can't help but wonder if those factors are really worth $400 more.
    IMO, yes and more.
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    Default Re: Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    For me, a lot comes down to OS. I prefer iOS. I rely on iOS for the way it handles group messaging, the ease and unambiguous nature, little things like tap to scroll. I prefer the way iOS works, looks, etc. From a hardware standpoint, I like the looks of the iPhone more. I prefer the feel, build quality, etc.

    A person can present me other devices and propose why they are 'better'. But it doesn't matter. I don't value customization over fluidity, open source over security. I don't care about free apps, changing fonts or widgets, choosing launchers, etc. I prefer higher app quality, timely updates, etc.

    Lastly, I'm blessed in life where disposable income is not an issue when it comes to my phone. I'll pay $900 for the largest storage iphone before $300 for an android device and not bat an eye. And in doing so, I'll feel 100% that I maximized my value.


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    Default Re: Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    Quote Originally Posted by finn5975 View Post
    For me, a lot comes down to OS. I prefer iOS. I rely on iOS for the way it handles group messaging, the ease and unambiguous nature, little things like tap to scroll. I prefer the way iOS works, looks, etc. From a hardware standpoint, I like the looks of the iPhone more. I prefer the feel, build quality, etc.

    A person can present me other devices and propose why they are 'better'. But it doesn't matter. I don't value customization over fluidity, open source over security. I don't care about free apps, changing fonts or widgets, choosing launchers, etc. I prefer higher app quality, timely updates, etc.

    Lastly, I'm blessed in life where disposable income is not an issue when it comes to my phone. I'll pay $900 for the largest storage iphone before $300 for an android device and not bat an eye. And in doing so, I'll feel 100% that I maximized my value.


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    Default Re: Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    Since you asked for what advantages iOS offers other than the general look and feel of the OS itself, here goes:

    1. iOS is much, much better for gaming. Since I like games, and spend a lot of my free time playing games, I like having OS and hardware that's good for gaming. That's part of why I actually won't buy a Mac any time soon. And also exactly why I like iOS. It's far superior to both Windows phone and Android in gaming, with far more exclusives than either. The only exception to that rule is the NVidia Shield, which is a better gaming device IF you have a good PC to stream all your best games from. Which sadly, I do not. So iOS it is, for me.

    2. Security. Unfortunately, I don't think Google will ever catch up in this area, partly due to the fact that their OS is open unlike iOS, and partly because the thing most of us want security against, apps that track you and sell your info, is Google's biggest revenue source. Either way, this advantage should be fairly evident to anyone who knows about the OS. iOS is sandboxes so malware cannot spread itself throughout the OS, and it lets you micromanage what each individual app is allowed to access on your phone.

    3. The App Store is far superior to Google Play in many ways. Sure, Google. Play wins out in a few areas, like customization apps, replacing defaults, and possibly in apps that Apple refuses to support, like emulators and the like. However the App Store quite simply has a far larger selection of apps and several exclusives (the first one I can think of is Facebook Paper).

    4. Integration. Between all the integration already introduced, and the more that's coming in iOS 8, if you already have an iPad or Mac, you have plenty of reason to want an iPhone, and vice versa. The fact that a lot of this integration is available in some limited capacity for Windows-iOS too, helps.

    5. Android's biggest advantage, customizability, is rendered moot by a 5-minute process. I simply cannot stress this last one enough. Jailbreaking (or Rooting for that matter) offer virtually unlimited customizability. Light years ahead of stock Android and iOS. The thing is, the above listed iOS advantages are nearly insurmountable. Sure you can get a third party solution for security, but those systems always lack something. For example, Google discontinued App Ops because it caused instability in apps. Do third parties take care of that? And the App Store advantage is simply too big a factor to ignore, and can be solved by no one but Google and the Android App Devs. Google is trying to improve integration the same way too, and so is Windows Phone for that matter, but iOS 8 has some killer features that the others don't.

    So there are my reasons as to why I would choose an iOS device even if someone offered me a very similar Android device for half the price. That sure is incentive enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA1337 View Post
    Since you asked for what advantages iOS offers other than the general look and feel of the OS itself, here goes:

    1. iOS is much, much better for gaming. Since I like games, and spend a lot of my free time playing games, I like having OS and hardware that's good for gaming. That's part of why I actually won't buy a Mac any time soon. And also exactly why I like iOS. It's far superior to both Windows phone and Android in gaming, with far more exclusives than either. The only exception to that rule is the NVidia Shield, which is a better gaming device IF you have a good PC to stream all your best games from. Which sadly, I do not. So iOS it is, for me.

    2. Security. Unfortunately, I don't think Google will ever catch up in this area, partly due to the fact that their OS is open unlike iOS, and partly because the thing most of us want security against, apps that track you and sell your info, is Google's biggest revenue source. Either way, this advantage should be fairly evident to anyone who knows about the OS. iOS is sandboxes so malware cannot spread itself throughout the OS, and it lets you micromanage what each individual app is allowed to access on your phone.

    3. The App Store is far superior to Google Play in many ways. Sure, Google. Play wins out in a few areas, like customization apps, replacing defaults, and possibly in apps that Apple refuses to support, like emulators and the like. However the App Store quite simply has a far larger selection of apps and several exclusives (the first one I can think of is Facebook Paper).

    4. Integration. Between all the integration already introduced, and the more that's coming in iOS 8, if you already have an iPad or Mac, you have plenty of reason to want an iPhone, and vice versa. The fact that a lot of this integration is available in some limited capacity for Windows-iOS too, helps.

    5. Android's biggest advantage, customizability, is rendered moot by a 5-minute process. I simply cannot stress this last one enough. Jailbreaking (or Rooting for that matter) offer virtually unlimited customizability. Light years ahead of stock Android and iOS. The thing is, the above listed iOS advantages are nearly insurmountable. Sure you can get a third party solution for security, but those systems always lack something. For example, Google discontinued App Ops because it caused instability in apps. Do third parties take care of that? And the App Store advantage is simply too big a factor to ignore, and can be solved by no one but Google and the Android App Devs. Google is trying to improve integration the same way too, and so is Windows Phone for that matter, but iOS 8 has some killer features that the others don't.

    So there are my reasons as to why I would choose an iOS device even if someone offered me a very similar Android device for half the price. That sure is incentive enough for me.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear enough, what I asked was for opinions as if you didn't have a preference for either OS over the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    Sorry if I wasn't clear enough, what I asked was for opinions as if you didn't have a preference for either OS over the other.
    Well yeah, I'm assuming since you asked for an unbiased opinion, you just wanted objective viewpoints, right? Like advantages that the OS has that can't be debated (eg. IOS is more secure, or Android is more customizable), right? That's exactly what I did up there. I left out any subjective advantages like look, feel, brand loyalty and just mentioned the places where iOS is objectively better and what incentive a buyer has to pay $400 more for an iPhone.
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    Default Re: Why pay $700 for an iPhone when....?

    You're essentially making this discussion non-sensical by removing the preference of OS...you're basically asking the question:

    "Why would you spend $700 on stuff, when you could buy stuff for less than half of that?"

    ...it makes no sense because the preferences you're omitting are the ONLY things that really matter to most people.

    It'd be like asking "Why buy a car for $7,000 when you could have a car for less than half of that?"

    Too vague and grossly generic. If they had a phone that did everything that I wanted it to do, looked the way I wanted it to look and came with support in the way I've come to expect for less than half of what I'm used to spending, of course I would buy it...that goes for literally anything on the entire planet, from tomatoes to vacations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with any of the above, but I can't help but wonder if those factors are really worth $400 more.
    Here's my story. You judge for yourself if the iPhone is worth $400 more for me or not...

    I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 for use for work. I am self employed and get a lot of my work from my agent via email and SMS and a lot of it is timebound, meaning I need to respond as quickly as I can. So for me reliability is absolutely paramount over and above everything else.

    One day, whilst out in town, I was sent a message and email from my agent about an urgent job that would have given me 1500 (about $2500 at today's conversion rates). However, I didn't receive the message as unbeknownst to me, my Note 3 had turned itself off in my pocket. It was only a couple of hours later, when I got home after the end of the working day, did I realise I couldn't turn my phone back on and had to pull the battery to get it to work. I lost out on that 1500 job and vowed from that day forward that being that the phone cost me a 1500 job, I would never use a Samsung device ever again.

    I switched over to an iPhone for work (I already had one for personal anyway) and couldn't be happier.

    At the end of the day, for me, the most important thing is IS IT GOING TO WORK? If it isn't, then it is utterly irrelevant whether the phone has cutting edge specs. Reliability is first and foremost what I look for in a device and Apple deliver that in spades, day after day after day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davehow View Post

    So here's the question. Aside from OS preference or whether you're already invested in android or iOS apps, what incentive is there to buy a $700 iphone , or android for that matter, when they're making this available contract free and unlocked for less than half the price?
    It all comes down to affordability ( if OS is not to be considered). If any Tom D!ck Harry is given 700 USD (with the only condition that he won't get back balance that he saved on One Plus) and ask to choose between the Iphone and One Plus, most likely, he is going to prefer the iPhone.

    Same situation in India. Lots of Local companies like Micromax, Lava, etc that have bleeding edge devices with more than latest specs on their devices at abysmal prices. After talking to friends who have tried them out, found out a few things : 1) The feel is cheap 2) Lousy after sales support. with under qualified staff at service centres( to cut costs obviously), which in the first place are far and less. So if you are lucky the phone is rock solid for a good 3 years, else you are out of luck 3) After the initial wowness of higher specs dries off, there is nothing good about the device to make you feel any longing for it and you start fancying your neighbors Iphone. 4) Lack of good quality accessories like screen protector, cases.
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