Apple crowned the greenest tech company by Greenpeace

[qbnkelt]

So, it is good for our environment that Apple have released 7 tablets in the same time frame that RIM/BB have only released one, how exactly?

Had the Playbook had ANY success AT ALL then BlackBerry would have released another. And another. The fact that it was an epic failure is not in any way to be deemed a win for the green movement.

 

[BBFunGuy]

But would they have released seven? When the next iPhone is released, will Greenpeace applaud? I do not speak for the green movement, fill me in.

 

[ajst222]

Technically?

Let me ask you this: Is Apple is business to make money, or to help the environment?

 

[BBFunGuy]

Tricky question. May be you should do a poll.

 

[Speedygi]

Does anyone really take it seriously that Apple pushes clean energy for their server plants? Let's just accept that these companies are going to be releasing devices yearly anyway...

 

[qbnkelt]

But would they have released seven? When the next iPhone is released, will Greenpeace applaud? I do not speak for the green movement, fill me in.

Would BlackBerry have releases seven Playbooks? Sure. If they would have moved units other than through fire sales and have had any measure of success.

Would Greenpeace applaud the iPhone 6? I'm not a fortune teller.





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[boeingrules]

But would they have released seven? When the next iPhone is released, will Greenpeace applaud? I do not speak for the green movement, fill me in.

If the new device is more energy efficient, then yes. Older, more energy intensive products will be discontinued and a new more energy effective one will replace it. Eventually, it will benefit the environment.

Also, don't forget that Apple has a superb recycling program and all of its products are highly recyclable.

By the way, how many new devices has Samsung released in the last year? Apple's yearly (or at most twice/thrice yearly) update schedule is pretty skimpy as far as technology goes.

 

[BBFunGuy]

While a new phone may be more energy efficient, is the improvement enough to outweigh the energy used to manufacture a new phone?

 

[FFR]

While a new phone may be more energy efficient, is the improvement enough to outweigh the energy used to manufacture a new phone?

Yes.

 

[Speedygi]

While a new phone may be more energy efficient, is the improvement enough to outweigh the energy used to manufacture a new phone?

From a business profit standpoint, yes.

From an environmental standpoint, definitely no, and ironically so.

 

[boeingrules]

While a new phone may be more energy efficient, is the improvement enough to outweigh the energy used to manufacture a new phone?

Apple uses 100% renewable energy for its manufacturing processes, according to the article, which means that all energy during manufacturing is clean anyway.

But you're right, if the same situation were applied to a different company, it would probably use more energy to manufacture than it would save through efficiency.

 

[qbnkelt]

While a new phone may be more energy efficient, is the improvement enough to outweigh the energy used to manufacture a new phone?

So your point is that Apple is enviromentally irresponsible for manufacturing new phones.

The purpose of a business is to sell its products. Apple has been recognised as being "green" in some of its activities.

This is not the same thing as a company producing a product that is has the sales figures equivalent of the Titanic and attempting to equate that with a moral high ground for not producing.

If it were the case that it is environmentally irresponsible to manufacture multipe devices, then BlackBerry would be the least responsible company, since it currrently produces literally a dozen different phones. And sells less than 10 million by Chen's own admission - his goal is to sell 10 million. So....looking at the expenditure of resources versus the number of devices sold, it would be then considered the height of environmental irresponsibility to continue to manufacture and expend natural resources when the ROI is so infinitessimal.

 

[BBFunGuy]

My point is that as a mobile phone seller, Apple is at odds with the green movement, like speedygi wrote, it is ironic.

May be you should explain you own point better, what is it?

 

[qbnkelt]

So industry in and of itself is at odds with the green movement. So your suggestion is.....a utopian vision of a post industrial Time Machine-like world?

And my point is made above.

 

[BBFunGuy]

So industry in and of itself is at odds with the green movement. So your suggestion is.....a utopian vision of a post industrial Time Machine-like world?

And my point is made above.

Can you summarise your point in one sentence? Is your point that you disagree because BlackBerry.

 

[qbnkelt]

Can you summarise your point in one sentence? Is your point that you disagree because BlackBerry.

So you're arguing my point without understanding what it is?

Here is my point in one sentence regarding the original post:

Congratulations, Apple, on Greenpeace's recognition of your efforts towards environmentally responsible manufacturing of your products.

 

[billyboydoy]

Can you summarise your point in one sentence? Is your point that you disagree because BlackBerry.

I didn't find the word BlackBerry anywhere in her post !!!
Where did you get it from ?


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[Speedygi]

We should all go back to being pre-agrarian hunter-gathers?

This.

 

[BBFunGuy]

So you're arguing my point without understanding what it is?

Here is my point in one sentence regarding the original post:

Congratulations, Apple, on Greenpeace's recognition of your efforts towards environmentally responsible manufacturing of your products.

If you re-read you may notice that you tell me what my point is, where I ask you what yours is.

 

[BBFunGuy]

I didn't find the word BlackBerry anywhere in her post !!!
Where did you get it from ? ��


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'Chen' is BlackBerry CEO.