1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I read a lot of news, RSS feeds, forum posts, etcetera where things happen to people, and I find that their first reaction to to blame others, especially businesses, in regard to things that are clearly not the fault of the businesses. Having said that, I'm going to ask a series of questions and ask that you share your answers and thoughts on the questions asked. NOTE: I will focus solely on incidents where Apple is blamed.

    1. Is it Apple's fault that you laid your iPhone down in a restaurant unguarded, went to use the restroom, and upon returning, discovered that it had been stolen?

    2. Is it Apple's fault that you opted to not enable the "Find My iPhone" feature or "Location Services" that could be used to help locate your iPhone?

    3. Is it Apple's fault that your girlfriend/boyfriend found out that you were cheating by reading iMessages on your iPhone that you failed to passcode lock?

    4. Is it Apple's fault that the message, "Can I see you tonight?" popped up on the lock screen and was visible by your wife/husband because you failed to go into the settings to disable the "Show on Lock Screen" option?

    5. Is it Apple's fault that you tried to save a few dollars and purchased a blocked iPhone or one that is protected with an iCloud activation lock from a person with a shady character?

    6. Is it Apple's fault that you bought an iPhone from someone in the U.S. at a cheaper price that you cannot activate in your home country?

    7. Is it Apple's fault that something went wrong when you tried to jailbreak your iPhone, and in the process, caused you to lose all of your precious music, text messages, videos and photos that you never created a backup for?

    Is it Apple's fault? If not, why do people blame Apple for these things?
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-06-2014 at 11:27 AM.
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    04-06-2014 10:03 AM
  2. taz323's Avatar
    1- no
    2- no
    3- no
    4- no
    5- no
    6- no
    7- no

    8- IDK
    04-06-2014 10:09 AM
  3. thatgirl87's Avatar
    No, none of it is Apple's fault, but how do you disable messages on lock screen for #4?


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    04-06-2014 10:23 AM
  4. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    No, none of it is Apple's fault, but how do you disable messages on lock screen for #4?


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    1. Go to Settings - Notification Center - Messages and then disable "Show on Lock Screen". You might want to disable "Show Preview" also.
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    04-06-2014 10:29 AM
  5. pr1nce's Avatar
    7 no's and 1 I don't know
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    04-06-2014 10:38 AM
  6. Les74's Avatar
    No to all of your questions, D.


    As to the reasons why people do what they do....well....sad to say, but people in general are getting dumber and just find it easier to blame someone/something else for their own stupidity.


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    04-06-2014 11:11 AM
  7. BlackBerry Guy's Avatar
    None of those are Apple's fault. But it's a sign of today's society, which is becoming increasingly litigous. It's always someone else's fault...there's no more self accountability.


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    04-06-2014 11:12 AM
  8. kch50428's Avatar
    Is it Apple's fault? If not, why do people blame Apple for these things?
    No, and people have been conditioned to blame everyone but themselves via culture-rot.
    04-06-2014 11:29 AM
  9. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    I saw NO to everything. For the last one, people don't want other people to notice their stupidity. People don't take responsibility for their actions anymore.
    Last edited by iOS Gravity; 04-06-2014 at 12:19 PM. Reason: Added More Information
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    04-06-2014 11:35 AM
  10. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    In todays society, yes it's Apple's fault because no one wants to take responsibility for their actions and everyone is special and perfect just the way they are.....probably because it's a crime to even think about punishing kids these days and "parents" are too lazy to parent and sit their kids in front of the TV, and give then video games and smartphones.

    In reality and legality, none of it is Apple's fault and people are upset at themselves for being stupid.
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    04-06-2014 11:53 AM
  11. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I hate how easy it is to blame a company, another person or just generally anything but themselves.

    Had a customer ask me, "Didn't it scare you that a girl accidently sat on her 5c and it kinda exploded?"

    I said no, Are you? He says "Yeah of course!".

    So I just simply told him that the easiest way to avoid this, it's by not sitting on it.

    Take ownage, take responsibility, and realize that there is no one to blame BUT yourself sometimes.

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    04-06-2014 12:14 PM
  12. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    This is the most tongue-in-cheek thread ever written about a security issue. It would not have been a problem for me, but there are some that do not secure their phone, and it is still unlikely even to be a problem for them. Some disabled people cannot remember a 4 number pin though, and a lot of devices are sold to them, or delivered to them through government programs, their needs should be catered for.
    04-06-2014 12:29 PM
  13. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    This is the most tongue-in-cheek thread ever written about a security issue. It would not have been a problem for me, but there are some that do not secure their phone, and it is still unlikely even to be a problem for them. Some disabled people cannot remember a 4 number pin though, and a lot of devices are sold to them, or delivered to them through government programs, their needs should be catered for.
    I didn't know the government could afford to give people $200 iPhones.
    04-06-2014 12:32 PM
  14. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    1- no

    2- no

    3- no

    4- no

    5- no

    6- no

    7- no

    These things that people like to blame Apple for is what tech support not so affectionately calls PICNIC or PEBKAC issues.
    PICNIC - Problem In Chair, Not In Computer
    PEBKAC - Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
    04-06-2014 12:38 PM
  15. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    This is the most tongue-in-cheek thread ever written about a security issue.
    Okay
    It would not have been a problem for me, but there are some that do not secure their phone, and it is still unlikely even to be a problem for them.
    True, but they are not the focus of this thread.
    Some disabled people cannot remember a 4 number pin though, and a lot of devices are sold to them, or delivered to them through government programs, their needs should be catered for.
    There are people who are not disabled that can't remember their 4-digit PIN, still, that is NOT Apple's fault. It doesn't matter how devices are issued to them, the fact still remains that the owners, whether disabled or not, bear a certain amount of responsibility. As for catering to their needs, were their needs not catered to when they received their devices? Is it Apple's responsibility to take care of those people? Heck, is it your responsibility to take care of them? No, it is not. That is what family, close friends and caretakers are for. Other than that, how can their needs be catered to in regard to securing their devices? Must a representative from Apple be present 24/7 to hold, unlock and make calls for them? Heck no!
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    04-06-2014 12:47 PM
  16. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Okay True, but they are not the focus of this thread.
    There are people who are not disabled that can't remember their 4-digit PIN, still, that is NOT Apple's fault. It doesn't matter how devices are issued to them, the fact still remains that the owners, whether disabled or not, bear a certain amount of responsibility. As for catering to their needs, were their needs not catered to when they received their devices? Is it Apple's responsibility to take care of those people? Heck, is it your responsibility to take care of them? No, it is not. That is what family, close friends and caretakers are for. Other than that, how can their needs be catered to in regard to securing their devices? Must a representative from Apple be present 24/7 to hold, unlock and make calls for them? Heck no!
    Well said D.
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    04-06-2014 12:56 PM
  17. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    1. Is it Apple's fault that you laid your iPhone down in a restaurant unguarded, went to use the restroom, and upon returning, discovered that it had been stolen?

    Of course not. You shouldn't do that with any of your property at a restaurant.

    2. Is it Apple's fault that you opted to not enable the "Find My iPhone" feature or "Location Services" that could be used to help locate your iPhone?

    Not at all. However, it would be nice if Apple sort of manipulated the user into enabling it at the welcome screen. Kind of the way it asks you to set a passcode lock and the option to not enable a passcode lock almost looks like it's not even there so people assume they must enable a passcode lock (as they should).

    3. Is it Apple's fault that your girlfriend/boyfriend found out that you were cheating by reading iMessages on your iPhone that you failed to passcode lock?

    No. You get exactly what you got coming to you for being that stupid. I know a person who got caught cheating because they didn't have a passcode lock set to their Android phone. Everything eventually shows itself when it comes to stupidity.

    4. Is it Apple's fault that the message, "Can I see you tonight?" popped up on the lock screen and was visible by your wife/husband because you failed to go into the settings to disable the "Show on Lock Screen" option?

    No. I do think that by default the "Show on Lock Screen" option should be set to off. This goes beyond the realm of people getting caught cheating.

    5. Is it Apple's fault that you tried to save a few dollars and purchased a blocked iPhone or one that is protected with an iCloud activation lock from a person with a shady character?

    No, you cheapskate.

    6. Is it Apple's fault that you bought an iPhone from someone in the U.S. at a cheaper price that you cannot activate in your home country?

    No, you tightwad.

    7. Is it Apple's fault that something went wrong when you tried to jailbreak your iPhone, and in the process, caused you to lose all of your precious music, text messages, videos and photos that you never created a backup for?

    Nah.

    Is it Apple's fault? If not, why do people blame Apple for these things?

    To elaborate on Keith's point; because people are stupid.
    04-06-2014 01:21 PM
  18. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    1. Is it Apple's fault that you laid your iPhone down in a restaurant unguarded, went to use the restroom, and upon returning, discovered that it had been stolen?

    Of course not. You shouldn't do that with any of your property at a restaurant.

    2. Is it Apple's fault that you opted to not enable the "Find My iPhone" feature or "Location Services" that could be used to help locate your iPhone?

    Not at all. However, it would be nice if Apple sort of manipulated the user into enabling it at the welcome screen. Kind of the way it asks you to set a passcode lock and the option to not enable a passcode lock almost looks like it's not even there so people assume they must enable a passcode lock (as they should).

    3. Is it Apple's fault that your girlfriend/boyfriend found out that you were cheating by reading iMessages on your iPhone that you failed to passcode lock?

    No. You get exactly what you got coming to you for being that stupid. I know a person who got caught cheating because they didn't have a passcode lock set to their Android phone. Everything eventually shows itself when it comes to stupidity.

    4. Is it Apple's fault that the message, "Can I see you tonight?" popped up on the lock screen and was visible by your wife/husband because you failed to go into the settings to disable the "Show on Lock Screen" option?

    No. I do think that by default the "Show on Lock Screen" option should be set to off. This goes beyond the realm of people getting caught cheating.

    5. Is it Apple's fault that you tried to save a few dollars and purchased a blocked iPhone or one that is protected with an iCloud activation lock from a person with a shady character?

    No, you cheapskate.

    6. Is it Apple's fault that you bought an iPhone from someone in the U.S. at a cheaper price that you cannot activate in your home country?

    No, you tightwad.

    7. Is it Apple's fault that something went wrong when you tried to jailbreak your iPhone, and in the process, caused you to lose all of your precious music, text messages, videos and photos that you never created a backup for?

    Nah.

    Is it Apple's fault? If not, why do people blame Apple for these things?

    To elaborate on Keith's point; because people are stupid.
    Couldn't agree with you more. Apple even introduced Touch ID and people are still not putting a password on their iPhone 5S'
    04-06-2014 01:49 PM
  19. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    Okay True, but they are not the focus of this thread.
    There are people who are not disabled that can't remember their 4-digit PIN, still, that is NOT Apple's fault. It doesn't matter how devices are issued to them, the fact still remains that the owners, whether disabled or not, bear a certain amount of responsibility. As for catering to their needs, were their needs not catered to when they received their devices? Is it Apple's responsibility to take care of those people? Heck, is it your responsibility to take care of them? No, it is not. That is what family, close friends and caretakers are for. Other than that, how can their needs be catered to in regard to securing their devices? Must a representative from Apple be present 24/7 to hold, unlock and make calls for them? Heck no!

    Sure, but neither the carer nor end-user are responsible for code, so it is not their fault.
    Last edited by BBFunGuy; 04-06-2014 at 02:13 PM. Reason: Use of or instead of nor. What was I thinking!
    04-06-2014 02:10 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Sure, but neither the carer or end-user are responsible for code, so it is not their fault.
    Okay, but what does code have to do with the thread topic? Code does not account for user irresponsibility.
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-06-2014 at 06:19 PM.
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    04-06-2014 02:12 PM
  21. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Okay, but what does code has to do with the thread topic? Code does not account for user irresponsibility.
    I'm still wondering how the government is giving out $200 iPhones.
    04-06-2014 02:21 PM
  22. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    People are dumb. The principle is that devices help us all get round that. Users are not perfect, we all err. If the designers had thought ahead, or may be back, like Aslan the lion, that part is uncertain, they would remember that people are dumb, and make safety features to stop people doing dumb stuff.
    04-06-2014 02:39 PM
  23. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    People are dumb. The principle is that devices help us all get round that. Users are not perfect, we all err. If the designers had thought ahead, or may be back, like Aslan the lion, that part is uncertain, they would remember that people are dumb, and make safety features to stop people doing dumb stuff.
    I don't understand what you're trying to say. Its a person's fault for not putting a password on their device. They can ask the government for an iPhone 5S with Touch ID, so they don't need to put in a password.
    04-06-2014 03:03 PM
  24. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    I will answer in this way by simply say that 1-7 without a doubt IMO is a definite NO - I am not going to elaborate because the questions are plainly self explanatory and the answer NO to them are as well. If YES if would have explained.

    Lastly as written by the OP: Is it Apple's fault? If not then why does Apple get blamed? Would it not be the easiest way to make Apple the skapegoat rather than to admit a mistake on the person(S) part by doing what they did that was their doing and then placing blame on another - In this case a Company like Apple. Place blame where blame should be placed and learn your lesson so that these don't repeat themselves.
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    04-06-2014 04:38 PM
  25. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I'm still wondering how the government is giving out $200 iPhones.
    Yeah, me too. If this is that Obama phone program I hear about....

    Dang.

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    04-06-2014 06:09 PM
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