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    Default My take on a bigger screen

    It has been written on here that since iPhones account for more than half of carriers' smartphone sales, then large-screen phones must not be in demand as much as some people (and sites) would like you to think they are. My opinion is that a great number of people want a 4.3-5 inch screen, but also do not want to leave iOS, and make the choice to stay with Apple and hope for a bigger-screen iPhone. If Apple were to release a 4.7-inch iPhone option, I think that sales would be off the charts, with a large number of them being current Android owners.
    I am trying to stay with my i5, but the Moto X is very tempting. It is the first optimized Android phone, which makes it just as smooth as iOS, and the form factor is still good for one-handed use. Android has made great strides, but I think that a bigger screen iPhone would slow down that train.
    And as Rene stated yesterday on the iMore show, just a small marketshare increase is a huge profit increase.
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    Apple isn't trying to be like Android. Don't see a huge screen anytime soon. Apple is really big about being able to use one hand(thumb) for everything. Not everyone wants a phatablet device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdiddy_25 View Post
    Apple isn't trying to be like Android. Don't see a huge screen anytime soon. Apple is really big about being able to use one hand(thumb) for everything. Not everyone wants a phatablet device.
    A phone like the Moto X can be used one-handed. It is a 4.7 inch screen with a small form factor, and not even close to being a phablet. And I'm glad that Apple isn't trying to be like Android, but the option of a bigger screen would put a boatload of money in their bank account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    A phone like the Moto X can be used one-handed. It is a 4.7 inch screen with a small form factor, and not even close to being a phablet. And I'm glad that Apple isn't trying to be like Android, but the option of a bigger screen would put a boatload of money in their bank account.
    That's true, I've played with it but still don't see Apple jumping screen size any time soon.
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    Make the iPad Mini Apple's VoIP/VoLTE Phone... there's your big screen phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    A phone like the Moto X can be used one-handed. It is a 4.7 inch screen with a small form factor, and not even close to being a phablet..
    sorry but most people don't have as big hands as you have. ladies feel 4 inch is the perfect size and some people with small hands feel even 4 inch is too big. so it comes to the personal taste. but for those people who only want to own one device thats the combination of a phone and a tablet then its perfect for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    Make the iPad Mini Apple's VoIP/VoLTE Phone... there's your big screen phone.
    Too big.
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    @sanc33-- "sorry but most people don't have as big hands as you have. ladies feel 4 inch is the perfect size and some people with small hands feel even 4 inch is too big. so it comes to the personal taste."

    That is why I said the OPTION of a bigger screen. Have 2 sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    Too big.
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    I'm sure that whenever Apple feels that they can combine battery life, build quality, and screen quality together in to a package that supports a larger screen with the right profit margin they will make one. A lot of devices right now are proving that just because they are wider than the iPhone doesn't mean their one handed ease of use suffers on the keyboard.

    I think what tends to suffer more comes down to how the OS expects you to behave. My biggest complaint with large Android phones is that the notification area is SO good that I spend a lot of time there - but reaching it can be a chore. This is not as much of a problem on Windows Phone where that area doesn't exist or iOS where the pull down isn't as helpful.


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    Here's the problem with *any* size bigger screen as I've heard it (someone feel free to correct me if I'm factually mistaken on this...).

    Currently, there are only 4 screen sizes that developers have to configure for iOS apps: iPhone 3.5" sizes, iPhone 4", iPad mini 8", and the two different resolutions for iPad 10" sizes. Contrast this to the literally hundreds of screen sizes that Android devices are composed of.

    (yes, I know that today's Android developer tools allow an app to automatically scale to any screen size, but there's a reason that many developers say that Android takes much more development time compared to iOS).

    Is adding yet another screen size and resolution to develop for worth the added fragmentation of iOS device screen sizes?

    Sure, it's "just one more" size to program for, but that *almost* sounds like a slippery slope to me.


    That and I'm not convinced that 4.7" is easy for one-handed use as some people claim. I have average sized hands myself and could tell a distinct difference in one-handed usability between my 4.3" Galaxy S2 and my iPhone 5. The extra width of the GS2 made a confident one-handed grip and use noticeably more difficult. It's the extra width that makes it harder.

    I know that everyone's use cases are different, but for myself I value ease of portability (fit in my pocket) and one handed use over a bigger screen. If I REALLY need a bigger screen, then that's what my tablet is for.
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    "Is adding yet another screen size and resolution to develop for worth the added fragmentation of iOS device screen sizes?"

    IMHO, yes. Developers just need to adjust.
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    How many times can this same thread be made? Holy jeeeez...

    It comes down to one thing...ONE...and that is majority rule within the consumer base. The consumer base is happy with the existing size, so it stays. Thankfully, I'm part of that consumer base that agrees that is fine as it is, and have no desire to see a bigger iPhone screen. Maybe it will happen one day, but it won't be because a niche of people complain that they "need" a bigger screened iPhone, it will be because the market demands it in bulk, regardless of how many of these threads pop up every year right before the release date clamoring ON and ON about how they need to up the size a bit.
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    Apple will make a bigger screen in the future maybe the iPhone 8 or 9 but big for apple is still small for phone standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    How many times can this same thread be made? Holy jeeeez...

    It comes down to one thing...ONE...and that is majority rule within the consumer base. The consumer base is happy with the existing size, so it stays. Thankfully, I'm part of that consumer base that agrees that is fine as it is, and have no desire to see a bigger iPhone screen. Maybe it will happen one day, but it won't be because a niche of people complain that they "need" a bigger screened iPhone, it will be because the market demands it in bulk, regardless of how many of these threads pop up every year right before the release date clamoring ON and ON about how they need to up the size a bit.
    So, what would be the problem with having 2 sizes?
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    I personally can see the benefit of having an iPhone with a bigger screen. My boyfriend loves iOS 7 but couldn't handle the "small screen" on the iPhone 5 so he move to an S4. I'm comfortable with the current size of the iPhone 5 screen. Sure it be cool to see a bigger sized iPhone. But I wouldn't like it if it got wider. It would be like holding an iPad mini mini. I really do wonder though with that said, how they are going to do the next iPhone 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    So, what would be the problem with having 2 sizes?
    It's not worth the time or money right now.

    Is there a benefit to a bigger screen? Sure!

    Is there a demand? Certainly!

    ...but as it sits right now, there's a bigger demand for what we have, and there's more benefit to satisfying that very large segment for Apple without delving into releasing multiple premium line smart phones. One product already juggernauts the competition each year, so why complicate that?
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    i dont believe you can go with a bigger screen for the iPhone but would love to see it..... i wouldnt be able to hold the phone and do things one handed if it was a bigger screen because now i can barely do things one handed with the 5!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdiddy_25 View Post
    That's true, I've played with it but still don't see Apple jumping screen size any time soon.
    If a larger screen size is in the iPhones future, I don't think we'll see it till some time in 2014 at the earliest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    It's not worth the time or money right now.

    Is there a benefit to a bigger screen? Sure!

    Is there a demand? Certainly!

    ...but as it sits right now, there's a bigger demand for what we have, and there's more benefit to satisfying that very large segment for Apple without delving into releasing multiple premium line smart phones. One product already juggernauts the competition each year, so why complicate that?
    Actually you can't say there is a bigger demand one way or another for a bigger screen or not.

    What you can say is there is a demand for an iPhone, lots of iPhone users like the current screen size, lots want a bigger screen. But currently the biggest there is is 4 inches. So if you want an iPhone it is 4 inch screen or nothing.

    The majority of iPhone users love the os and won't leave even if they don't like the screen size.

    So we have no idea what the bigger demand is for a bigger screen until apple releases one.
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    Jobs was always horrified at the idea of an iPhone screen any bigger than 3.5 " and although the screen has gotten bigger than 3.5", I think Apple has that basic philosophy in the back of their minds when contemplating screen sizes for iPhones. I don't believe there will be a 4.7 or 5" screen anytime soon unless they see hordes of iFans leaving for bigger screens.
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    "One product already juggernauts the competition each year, so why complicate that?"

    Maybe in the past, but not now. There are some very good products out there now. Plus, they do multiple size iPads, so why not iPhones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfedude88 View Post
    Actually you can't say there is a bigger demand one way or another for a bigger screen or not.

    What you can say is there is a demand for an iPhone, lots of iPhone users like the current screen size, lots want a bigger screen. But currently the biggest there is is 4 inches. So if you want an iPhone it is 4 inch screen or nothing.

    The majority of iPhone users love the os and won't leave even if they don't like the screen size.

    So we have no idea what the bigger demand is for a bigger screen until apple releases one.
    Actually, yes I can say there is a bigger demand for this size vs. a bigger iPhone because we still have this size iPhone. We're not talking rocket science here man, this is simple market research and business 101...the majority controls the market with ANYTHING sold to consumers, and Apple, as a company, follows these trends to maintain customer satisfaction. If the higher demand was for a 5" screen phone over the market spectrum of iPhone, we'd have a 5" iPhone. It's so basic man, it doesn't take an inside source or crystal ball.

    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    "One product already juggernauts the competition each year, so why complicate that?"

    Maybe in the past, but not now. There are some very good products out there now. Plus, they do multiple size iPads, so why not iPhones?
    It still does it now...just watch later this month (we all know what's coming). No one said other phones weren't good products...the Galaxy S line of phones is a great addition to the market, but the iPhone will still choke slam the market upon release...in numbers you just don't see from ANY other phone singularly.

    The iPad was a different scenario...one where they went SMALLER to rival the "phablet" sales numbers. THAT is the only reason the iPad Mini came into existence...they even talked about this shortly after it's release, how they saw a market segment that the iPhone didn't fit in, but a smaller iPad would at least rival (meaning the Note segment, even without phone function).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanc333 View Post
    sorry but most people don't have as big hands as you have. ladies feel 4 inch is the perfect size and some people with small hands feel even 4 inch is too big. so it comes to the personal taste. but for those people who only want to own one device thats the combination of a phone and a tablet then its perfect for them.
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    Default Re: My take on a bigger screen

    I think now with the introduction of the iPhone 5c it's more plausible that we would see a screen size increase next year as they could keep the 4" size for the budget model then increase the size of the main iPhone premium model so for iPhone 6 I could see a jump to 4.3 or 4.5". I really hope nothing bigger though cause the freaking Note 3 is freakishly huge actually take that back the Galaxy Mega 6.3 is freakishly huge!

    Like pappy referred to having two different sized iPhones I completely agree, with the kick off of this year being the first time they release two iPhones next year could be that jump in screen size but at this time it's just not feasible. Sean has a solid point as well even with all the big screened Android devices being released for the past 4 years the iPhone's steam hasn't slowed at all during launch even vastly outpacing the sales of those Android phones combined without seeing a screen size increase until 2012 so until millions upon millions of people flock from iOS because of the "stubbornness" of Apple to not follow the "trends" and release a bigger iPhone I think we'll see the 4" 5S and 5C shatter the records set by the iPhone 5.
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