- 08-01-2011, 01:31 AM #26
No. No need. You have however been posting in the AT&T forums in a thread that has been closed. You said and I quote from this http://forums.tipb.com/showthread.php?t=216638thread:
".... I've recently signed up with T-mobile and was wondering if that means AT&T will cut my phone off and demand their money when the acquisition goes through"
Just not understanding how you love AT&T and how much better it is on the iPhone 4, but you just signed with t-mobile and have proof that you are on verizon? I'm just trying to understand it all. Thats it. No Ill intended.
Also, I'm not checking your other threads. I happens upon it while reading through
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- 08-01-2011, 01:49 AM #28
That being said, you claim that your argument is not "AT&T vs Verizon", yet the only price of evidence you present to support your argument that the iPhone is better on AT&T is simultaneous data and talk, witch for many is a non-issue. To make a compelling argument that people on both sides will be able to constructively debate you will need to do better than that.
So you don't think I am stocking your posts this is where I leave this post yet again. An just as last time I leave it where it started. A dead issue that cannot be truly effectively argued as the argument is based on users individual experience and preference. I would highly recommend getting the next iPhone on AT&T when it arrives though as it will undoubtably be far superior.
if this matter is a matter of opinion, why are so many vehemently arguing about the one statement that i made?
talk and surf was not my only piece of evidence. i also pointed out the merging calls thing.
i didn't mention you 'stocking my posts' again.
i could have sworn i said an iphone on at&t is not an option earlier in this thread. did i not predict that someone would say that? i didnt start this thread to fend off fan-boys
- 08-01-2011, 03:14 AM #30
I do agree with you thou yes att does have those advantages over Verizon for now thats why there in every att commercial. No diff than Verizon comparing there coverage to att.
Does it make it a better iPhone ?
It depends on the user if you really need those features then yes for that person that makes there iPhone complete.
You can call me a fanboy a loser whatever but I have had att , tmobile and sprint and none compared to coverage I have had and where I've gone and have now with Verizon simply Verizon just hasn't failed me
I'm sure other have had diff results and that's fine I have friends who swear by sprint att and tmobile.
here's my thing though.
we're iphone users. isn't talk/voice like secondary to us? aren't features like the two that i keep bringing up kinda the reason we have iphones? might just be me. and again, in a place like New York, EVERY carrier has impecable service, so again, it comes down to the phone and the carrier's capabilities to support that phone for me/us. i guess im saying that GSM iphones win in NY.
what i wanted to know when starting this thread was whether or not verizon would step it up and match up with at&t's capabilities. I wanted to know if anyone knew of any plans verizon had to become equals in that respect
- 08-01-2011, 06:33 AM #32
I have had Verizon since the first cell phone from them was offered and I have had pretty much EVERY smartphone in their line up between Blackberry, Android, and now the iPhone. I did have the Thunderbolt which let you use data and talk at the same time and that was the phone that I had before the iPhone. Personally, talk and data at the same time doesn't bother me at all if I have it or not.
Yes, GSM networks are better in certain respects but the coverage base of Verizon in the US is unbeatable. My friend has a BB on AT&T and he always and I mean ALWAYS complains of dropped calls and crappy service.
Apple isn't stupid they wouldn't change the iPhone internals just to have a difference between the two carriers, AT&T and Verizon have too many customers for Apple to do something stupid like that. Its the same phone, what it comes down to is your service, you have crappy coverage by one, go for the other simple as that.
Verizon has been good to me, yes I have had my issues with them at points but who hasn't had issues with any of the phone companies? Phones are disposable I am prime example of that since I usually switch mine 2-3 times a year its the service that you keep and that binds your choices.
- 08-01-2011, 08:15 AM #33
Here's a fact: CDMA provides better penetration. Big buildings? Subways? CDMA is your best friend.
- 08-01-2011, 08:24 AM #34
And if GSM was really a "superior" technology as you claim, then this security vulnerability would not be possible. Note what the article says... " it tricks AT&T and T-Mobile handsets..." - Hmmm.... those are GSM operators aren't they? Does not say anything about CDMA providers like Verizon...
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- 08-01-2011, 05:11 PM #38
I notice you didn't address the rest of my comments at all. Have you realized your opening thesis was just a tad off base?
- 08-01-2011, 05:21 PM #39
This just doesn't add up. Not one bit. But at least the AT&T iPhone can do simultaneous data/voice. Right?
So I guess the commercials should instead say "if you don't have an AT&T iPhone ......well....... You don't have an AT&T iPhone". Not sure why you are on verizon if the AT&T iPhone is so much more amazing.
- 08-01-2011, 05:44 PM #40
I haven't addressed a lot of what was said in this thread, not because I'm not reading or paying attention, but because I'm one man against what seems like a whole community attacking me for a comment I made, which I will admit might be 'a tad off base' only after taking into consideration that the reasons I believe the GMS versions are better might not be things that are important to everyone.
I will, however, use an analogy to support my 'original thesis'. I have two nearly identical cars. Car A being AT&T and car B being Verizon. Car A uses about a quarter more gas to get from point A to point B, but includes everything car B has PLUS it has leather seats, where car b doesn't and it has power windows where car B doesn't. In my opinion, car A is better. This is just my opinion. But a lot of us might think that gas is WAY more important. Those people are the ones who attacked me in this thread
- 08-01-2011, 06:22 PM #42
Really bad analogy. A GSM iPhone has one advantage over a CDMA iPhone, and that is simultaneous voice/data - and that will be a nonissue once LTE is used. One advantage (that many people don't see as an advantage) don't make it superior.
By the way, "superior" is a superlative. It cannot be increased - kinda like "biggest." Either it is superior, or it is not. It can't be "more" superior.
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- 08-01-2011, 07:12 PM #48
Well if saying something with all caps makes it fact without compelling evidence of any kind, than I am TALL, DARK and HANDSOME. Now I'm going to text that to my wife so she will see and believe.
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