- 06-02-2010, 12:13 PM #51
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- 06-02-2010, 12:27 PM #55
I can go back and look at my history and feel good about 2GB (like others are doing) but that is irrelevant. 3G will only get faster especially hspa+. More data consumption features will be added such as ichat, netflix, even tethering, etc.
Especially if you're sharing 5mp pics (instead of 3), uploading HD video, streaming higher quality for the higher resolution screen, skype (which apple is adding multitasking for)...
- 06-02-2010, 12:29 PM #56iPhone Newbie
- 13 Posts
To me, the appeal of the iPad 3G was the plan. Specifically:
-I'm mostly around WiFi, so the 3G was not required every month
-Since it was month-to-month, I could spin up the 3G when I would be doing traveling but cancel it when I thought I'd go 30 days without needing it.
-The plans were priced at attractive levels
-My understanding was if I went over 250 MB, I simply paid the difference to the unlimited plan, and was upgraded.
-The plans are priced just OK
-The upgrade for overage is less kind
-Still can pay month-to-month
Had the iPad been out three years, like the iPhone, or even a year, I could probably shrug this off with a little grumbling. The fact that these alterations came out a month after the device's release is frustrating Framing it that way, is there some action that can be taken?
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- 06-02-2010, 12:30 PM #57
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- 06-02-2010, 12:37 PM #59
Does anybody know what AT&T does with all the money they make off of us??? It seems like they are just trying to wring us dry for as long as possible while not upgrading their network.
So now after three years of having iPhone exclusivity, have we seen any performance improvements? Not where I live in LA county, and all the 3G dead zones across LA are still here, even though I've been marking them for AT&T using their "mark the spot" app, as have thousands of others most likely. Might as well delete it as they aren't taking any action.
It's a shame too, things like rollover minutes and simultaneous voice and data is great, if only they spent some of those billions on UPGRADES instead of limitations.
- 06-02-2010, 12:37 PM #60
Note that 4G will use the bandwidth much more efficiently than 3G. The cost per bit to AT&T will drop but we will pay the same.
Of all the carriers, AT&T is the one that drives with its eye on the rear-view mirror. The only solution to that is the end of exclusivity. Only then will they look to the future or price competitively.
- 06-02-2010, 12:55 PM #61
I think that organizing and griping, boycotting and writing letters/emails is about as far as we can take it. I don't know that it will do a damned thing other than let our extreme displeasure be known, but that sounds good to me, as well.
You're absolutely right about the bait and switch.
- 06-02-2010, 01:12 PM #62
If you're an IT person, you should know this.
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- 06-02-2010, 01:33 PM #66
whether a picture is 5 or 3 megapixels makes no difference, the full resolution is not being sent 90% of the time. If you are emailing them at full resolution then it makes a difference, but full res is not the default action in iPhone OS, and uploading to facebook/twitter is not the full res image either.
Video chat isn't going to take you from 300MB to 2GB. Video chat over 3G (if it's even available) will use less bandwidth than YouTube over 3G, which has little impact on your data plan.
This may be bad for the heavy users but for everyone else it's "hey your data plan can be $5 cheaper, or if you're a lite user, $15 cheaper!" which a lot of consumers will appreciate. And, establishing limits means ATT may be wiling to allow more things to happen over 3G.
- 06-02-2010, 01:59 PM #67
- 06-02-2010, 02:04 PM #68iPhone Beginner
- 80 Posts
I, too, feel like I've been a vicitim of bait and switch. The bottom line: I would not have purchased my iPad had they been honest about these changes at the device launch. The unlimited 3G plan, for me and my usage needs, is a deal breaker.
I'm a brand new Apple customer and as I am finding out over and over and over, I'm pretty pissed off. Nothing has been as they said and I really do feel lied to. And conveniently, this announcement came just past the "return" window. I can't even return the stupid thing when it stops doing what they told me it would do when I bought it.
I can tell you what, after the experience I have had and these **** ant changes and Apple's convenient silence on them, I will never buy another Apple product again. Sure, I'll use this one, but never again.
- 06-02-2010, 02:13 PM #69
- 06-02-2010, 02:32 PM #70
AT&T has established that we will pay per gigabyte, used or unused, while AT&T's cost of delivering that gigabyte will drop by an order of magnitude. They have established the right to charge a premium for some applications, e.g., tethering, without regard to how intensively, or even whether, we use them to consume any bandwidth. Can you say "net neutrality?"
We had all better hope that this pricing plan fails, that the FCC and FTC take it on, that AT&T's competitors take it on as an opportunity. While AT&T sweetens the dose by offering a lower entry price, it is not one that we want to live with for the long haul.
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- 06-02-2010, 03:18 PM #74iPhone Beginner
- 80 Posts
It's true. It's on AT&T's Facebook page. Omg, people are PISSED. Go do a Facebook search on AT&T...its like 10 posts a second of people raging pissed off.
On a positive note, I found a link to file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission Bureau Of Consumer Protection:
Go file a complaint. I think if enough people do - Apple will get called to the table over this crap.
- 06-02-2010, 03:22 PM #75
there is nothing saying they can't charge for data useage. VzW CEO the other week said they are going to be doing the same thing soon. what is complete BS and something to talk to the FCC/FTC/BBB about is how AT&T is charging another $20 for tethering on top of the $25 for 2GB of data. Tethering is using data the same as streaming music or whatever. You have already paid for the data and they have the nerve to charge another $20 so you can use the feature? Screw you AT&T! Maybe they should be more grateful that iPhone SAVED their company from ruins and now they are starting to **** people off even more. Eventually the iPhone won't be on only AT&T and thats the day AT&T will regret screwing people.