- 07-06-2009, 04:33 PM #101
1) Yes. If you're on a normal plan you get free calling to any AT&T mobile customer, even goPhone. If you're on a Unity plan (meaning you have a bundle with home phone and wireless) you get free calling to AT&T mobile AND land lines.
2) Unfortunately, no
3) On any phone (except for iPhone) if you use the default IM program installed on your phone when you bought it, those will be included in your messaging plan. If you use a separate client or any web based services, you will be charged for data usage.
- 07-06-2009, 04:51 PM #102
Honestly, your best bet to save yourself some money is to wait till your official early upgrade date OR have it repaired for $200. Either way is the same price.
- 07-06-2009, 04:53 PM #103
- 07-06-2009, 04:55 PM #104
Once you upgrade, the equipment is yours to do with what you want. However, it's not as easy as switching SIMs. Once the upgrade is done, you need to call AT&T and give them the correct IMEI you will be using for your personal line. That will allow them to take off the iPhone data plan. Then, you'll need to give them the iPhone IMEI found on the box and your work number and they'll add the Data plan on there for you. If your work number is controlled by someone in yuor company, they will have to call and do it for you.
- 07-09-2009, 06:54 PM #105
- 07-09-2009, 07:54 PM #106
- 07-09-2009, 09:55 PM #107
My first theory is based on the fact that AT&T is a backlogged beaurocratic company. You see, on every cellular line, there are feature codes determined how different services are handled and billed. There are codes on every line to handle EVERY service from voicemail access, to roaming access, call waiting, texts, mms and data. These codes can be in one of three modes: Opt Out (blocked), pay per use, or some sort of paid package that is advertised. On every iphone line, there are two codes for messaging. The first handles text messaging. Ordinary phones have a generic messaging package. iPhones have a special iPhone messaging package, even for pay per use. The other code handles MMS. Now, on individual text plans (plans not attached to a family messaging package meaning the $30 a month unlimited text) have an MMS code called Admin MMS Only, or MMS opt out (depending on iPhone model) that restricts incoming and outgoing MMS. My theory is that AT&T has not yet found a way to automatically go through each iPhone line, delete the block, and put an MMS code that corresponds to that messaging plan you've signed up for. This may mean that it has to be done manually. Which is no easy task for millions of iPhones. The other thing that has to happen is that an official carrier file has to be submitted to Apple and AT&T for approval and testing to enable the MMS functionality within the phone. We already have a leaked carrier file that you can install yourself but it was intended for beta testing. The interesting thing here is that lines on a family talk account do not have that MMS code restriction, the only code attached for messaging is a code called Family Messaging AAL (add a line) which is a generic messaging code that does not restrict MMS access so if you are on a family messaging plan and you have that leaked carrier file, you can do it right now! But please don't call into customer service and ask them to life the MMS restriction on your line. We're being told that they are terminating Store reps and reprimanding Phone reps for removing this block.
My second theory is based on the weaknesses of the 3G network at&t has deployed. I will preface this by saying that in my area I have no coverage or connection problems related to 3G. I feel like most of the complaints you'll here are from people in fringe coverage areas and major cities. I think that AT&T is waiting till the flip the switch on UMTS on the 850 MHz frequency till they complete testing in major cities. If you know a little bit about how waves travel, you can achieve larger coverage on lower frequencies at the expense of fewer users and slower theoretical top speeds. This is why AT&T decided to roll out most of its 3G network on the 1900 MHz band. When they finally turn the 850 UMTS band, they will be able to accommodate more users and expand coverage. You gotta figure that the sudden addition of thousands of picture messages each 600kb in size sent each hour could put a bit of a hurt onto AT&T's network.
I'm sorry I don't have a better answer for you, but if I hear anything I will definitely notify Rene or Dieter and they'll post it to the site.
My unofficial guess for MMS: September 2009.
Keep em coming guys!
- 07-09-2009, 10:18 PM #108
Ok, I have a question.
I'm currently on TMobile with about 23 days and 3 hrs left on my contract. I've had the iPhone itch for about 3 months now, and while another 3 weeks is not too much more to wait, I've been VERY tempted to go and get my iPhone now and just have ATT port the number when my contract expires.
That's the easy part. Now for the "hard" part. I don't want to miss calls, and a LOT of people have my number as I've had it for a good 7 years or so. Having to track down everyone with my number and tell them to call this new number for the next 22 days is....less than ideal. So, I thought I could turn on unconditional call forwarding on my TMobile account to forward calls to my new ATT number so that people wouldn't know the difference if they were calling me. My only concern though is the minutes. I spend the bulk of my minutes talking to my girlfriend, who is on ATT so free mobile to mobile lets me get the 450 min plan. Now, for the question. If my girfriend ( on ATT ) were to call my TMobile line, that was fowarded to my ATT line, would it fall into the mobile to mobile bucket or general minute usage?
It's a complex situation, I know >_< Thanks in advance!
- 07-10-2009, 06:57 AM #109
Ok I have an iPhone 3GS w/ the least expensive individual plan and the 5 dollar text messaging. Because I work for best buy I get a small discount, so my bill is about 70 w/ taxes. However I have a t-mobile line that I find far better for calls in NY. My t-mobile is about to expire, while I have just recently re-upped w/ AT&T to get my 3GS. Now I would not mind canceling my AT&T account and consolidating bills to just T-Mobile. However AT&T's data is by far better and faster than T-Mobile's. So I was wondering is there anyway to get rid of the voice option on my AT&T plan. More extreme I was even willing to claim my Iphone as stolen and reduce the plan, but would AT&T just leave me with a data plan. What if I put my tmobile sim in my 3GS (when we are finally able to unlock it). Can I use my t-mobile phone (Unlocked Blackberry Storm) on At&t and ask them potentially just leave me with a data plan. I really dont want to lose either number, but i HATE aT&T voice service.
- 07-10-2009, 07:02 AM #110
big9erfan - you have 10 days to port a number. You're going to be paying that last month to t-Mo any way you look at it. If you go get an iPhone now, you aren't going to save a cent by forwarding cause you'll still be paying two bills. You may as well do it and get it over with.
- 07-10-2009, 08:08 AM #111
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- 07-10-2009, 08:57 AM #113
Ugh, I'm just convincing myself more and more...maybe I have to stop by the Apple store on the way home from work. I know I should have the self control to wait now that I'm in my 30s, but ....I feel like a kid counting down to Christmas day LOL
- 07-10-2009, 10:12 AM #114
- 07-10-2009, 06:16 PM #115
- 07-10-2009, 06:21 PM #116
Unfortunately there is only one way to have data service only on the iPhone and it probably won't apply to you. THe iphone can be set up on a special $40 a month Text + Data only plan if you are deaf or hard of hearing, which requires a special form to be signed by a doctor.
As for using the unlocked Storm, it's absolutely possible. Data service on a non Laptop Connect device without voice is $35 a month. You could then use the iPhone on T-Mo after you unlock it.
- 07-11-2009, 09:11 AM #117
Thanks again for the info
- 07-11-2009, 10:27 AM #118
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- 07-13-2009, 06:39 AM #124
and i get to take my state employee discount with me over to AT&T. tee hee
- 07-15-2009, 04:50 AM #125iPhone Nanite
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i don't own an iPhone yet, but plan to in the very immediate future. just a few things i haven't been able to find a definitive answer on: i read that at&t is seeking out iPhone users who aren't using the approved data plans and adding it to their accounts. my question is can at&t only recognize regular locked at&t iPhones on unapproved data plans or can they still find you even if your iPhone is unlocked & jailbroken? also, if they can't recognize the unlocked/jailbroken iPhones, does it still work on the 3G network? ideally, i'd like to be on the at&t network since i've found out that the t mobile network doesn't support 3G speeds for the iPhone. my plan was to get a Pick Your Plan go phone with unlimited data and just take the sim out of the go phone and put it in my new iPhone. Thank you so much for any help, i know i want an iPhone but if at&t is gonna force me on their required data plan no thx, i'll just go to t mobile.
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