1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    If you're not going to read the retorts, move on from the discussion. That is a pitiful and lazy cop out from someone who knows they are already defeated in terms of the debate.



    Where are my facts? Really? My facts are in the constant flow of news reports of the record breaking sales numbers Apple made following the release of the 6 and 6 Plus...that's just one source of FACTS.

    You still fail to grasp what Apple is trying to do with the 6 Plus. They don't WANT it to be a different level of device...they want it to be an iPhone that is appealing to consumers who want a bigger screen. They're not going to cannibalize iPad sales knowingly by creating another category in their line up, nor are they going to isolate iPhone 6 buyers by making a "step up" device with the Plus "line" seem like the defined higher end choice.

    This harps back to the same reason the Macbook Pro and Macbook Air are marketed the way they are...Apple doesn't make you feel the Air is the "entry" model, they market the hardware as a different option with focus in other arenas (ultra light weight and small size)...but at the same time, they make sure that potential MBP buyers feel similar concern is being paid to that device as well...making it smaller and lighter.

    In fact, if you go through Apple's entire lineup of products, each and every device has a consumer base focus, but none of products are pushed as "better" than the other, just different. And they've been monumentally successful with this business tactic. They sell unbelievable amounts of hardware across the spectrum, and they retain customer satisfaction levels beyond ANY other company most years (the only competition being Amazon lately in terms of satisfaction numbers).

    And somehow, you feel changing their approach would be optimal based on the idea of further segregating devices based on their abilities, essentially placing one above another as a defined "higher" level option.



    If this is your level of input, why even bother to participate? It's like asking a kid why they did something and they respond "Because."
    Now that is about as clear as it can get, in my opinion...
    01-29-2015 10:31 AM
  2. jakdillard's Avatar
    If you're not going to read the retorts, move on from the discussion. That is a pitiful and lazy cop out from someone who knows they are already defeated in terms of the debate.



    Where are my facts? Really? My facts are in the constant flow of news reports of the record breaking sales numbers Apple made following the release of the 6 and 6 Plus...that's just one source of FACTS.

    You still fail to grasp what Apple is trying to do with the 6 Plus. They don't WANT it to be a different level of device...they want it to be an iPhone that is appealing to consumers who want a bigger screen. They're not going to cannibalize iPad sales knowingly by creating another category in their line up, nor are they going to isolate iPhone 6 buyers by making a "step up" device with the Plus "line" seem like the defined higher end choice.

    This harps back to the same reason the Macbook Pro and Macbook Air are marketed the way they are...Apple doesn't make you feel the Air is the "entry" model, they market the hardware as a different option with focus in other arenas (ultra light weight and small size)...but at the same time, they make sure that potential MBP buyers feel similar concern is being paid to that device as well...making it smaller and lighter.

    In fact, if you go through Apple's entire lineup of products, each and every device has a consumer base focus, but none of products are pushed as "better" than the other, just different. And they've been monumentally successful with this business tactic. They sell unbelievable amounts of hardware across the spectrum, and they retain customer satisfaction levels beyond ANY other company most years (the only competition being Amazon lately in terms of satisfaction numbers).

    And somehow, you feel changing their approach would be optimal based on the idea of further segregating devices based on their abilities, essentially placing one above another as a defined "higher" level option.



    If this is your level of input, why even bother to participate? It's like asking a kid why they did something and they respond "Because."

    Sean it's not that I didn't want to take time to read that retort it's just that the person went from a debate about a business to being personal and I'm not gonna do personal with anyone that I don't know personally.

    I can debate with you because we are defending our opinions without the need for going for blood, so that's why I said i would just agree to disagree to that other comment and bow out since this discussion has (if you read some of the other post) went out of the context.

    I never said apple sucks, in fact that's why I made the switch.
    01-29-2015 01:26 PM
  3. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Sean it's not that I didn't want to take time to read that retort it's just that the person went from a debate about a business to being personal and I'm not gonna do personal with anyone that I don't know personally.

    I can debate with you because we are defending our opinions without the need for going for blood, so that's why I said i would just agree to disagree to that other comment and bow out since this discussion has (if you read some of the other post) went out of the context.
    Fair enough.

    I never said apple sucks, in fact that's why I made the switch.
    I never said you said Apple sucks...I said that your idea for what Apple should do in terms of the iPhone 6 was just not in line with what Apple has done (which has been extremely successful for them...far beyond what segregating devices as higher end and lower end would do).
    01-29-2015 07:09 PM
  4. jakdillard's Avatar
    Fair enough.



    I never said you said Apple sucks...I said that your idea for what Apple should do in terms of the iPhone 6 was just not in line with what Apple has done (which has been extremely successful for them...far beyond what segregating devices as higher end and lower end would do).
    I was just reiterating that to anyone else who has read this thread, and I get that they don't want a divide of higher and lower end devices but thats kind of what they did with this release.

    I was watching my local news a couple of days ago, and they reported that Apple has enough money to give everyone in the United States over $500, that is a huge cash pile and I would agree that they were very successful especially since this iPhone release.

    I just wish that Apple since they jumped on the bigger smartphone band wagon would have "owned" the term "phablet", hell imagine when they were doing the keynote for the new iPhones if they unveiled the iPhone 6 then Tim Cook turns to the crowd and says "Also we have a new product, I would like to show you Apples first phablet ... iPhone 6+." I believe that definitely would have define this category of larger devices as well as took a word we use as slang to describe these devices and made it a thing.

    Now I know that HTC was one of the first to make large screened smartphones back during the times of Windows Mobile, then Samsung started with its offerings with the "S2" and later with the "Note" but no one ever defined the "Note" or larger phones as a phablet besides tech blogs, I believe if Apple would have "taken" the word from the blogs and said "hey now we offer two devices, you can get a 4.7' smartphone or a 5.5' phablet" the marketing would have fell in line on its own and "iPhone shoppers" would know category they want to try and what they definitely want to buy.
    01-31-2015 10:42 AM
  5. iEd's Avatar
    You are holding on to Apple using the term Phablet like a Pit Bull on a Poodle.
    01-31-2015 11:40 AM
  6. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    YOU wanted that...Apple never wanted that, just like Apple never wanted their devices to be related with the term "NFC", so they created Apple Pay, so it remained defined by Apple.
    01-31-2015 03:42 PM
  7. Haalcyon's Avatar
    So many people wanted larger iPhones and it has paid off. I've read so many posts in Android Central from members saying they wanted a bigger iPhone, "If only the iPhone was bigger". Apple did the smart thing and listened and it's paying off huge dividends.

    ...and I don't think most people give the slightest rat's -heiny about what its called, but perhaps they do.
    02-08-2015 06:25 AM
  8. konilim's Avatar
    They are definitely going to come with a new name, but only when the idea of an iphone becomes tired. I think we are already seeing signs, so they will try to reinvent it in some way which doesn't just mean bigger.
    09-10-2015 08:40 PM
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