1. A895's Avatar
    Look at the way Apple presents itself. When you walk into an Apple Store and the way displays are set up and presented. All the white. It all looks clean. Whether aluminum is cheap or not, look at how well it blends in with presentation. Even the website. You can call what I'm saying here perception. But it is in fact a fact which is evidence enough.

    How low would you like to see Apple put an iPhone at? Two to three hundred (without subsidy)? Do you not see how watered down the product would have to be? If aluminum isn't as luxurious as you're pointing out, then why haven't other phone manufacturers followed suit for the most part? Look at how nice the HTC One stands out from other Android phones. Apple is going to put an iPhone with reduced materials alongside their other ones? It would stick out like a sore thumb. It just doesn't fit in.
    Aluminum hasn't been used a lot because it isn't cost effective as plastic, nor as durable, creates design issues, and isn't good for cellphone signals. Antenna gate? Plastic lines on.phones for signals such as on the iPhone 6/6+, and the HTC One aren't that good looking.

    And again it is perception and opinion point blank, not fact.
    12-08-2014 03:16 PM
  2. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Aluminum hasn't been used a lot because it isn't cost effective as plastic
    At least you're seeing a point in why the low cost phone hasn't been made.
    12-08-2014 03:19 PM
  3. A895's Avatar
    At least you're seeing a point in why the low cost phone hasn't been made.
    It does not have to be aluminum, that is the point. It won't be exactly the same as the higher end iPhones but that worn change much, the iPhone wasn't always straight aluminum and glass.
    12-08-2014 03:22 PM
  4. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    It does not have to be aluminum, that is the point. It won't be exactly the same as the higher end iPhones but that worn change much, the iPhone wasn't always straight aluminum and glass.
    And those that weren't were how much?
    12-08-2014 03:24 PM
  5. A895's Avatar
    And those that weren't were how much?
    What does that have to do with anything? Apple charged a high premium with early iPhones. And were exclusive to one carrier then 2.
    12-08-2014 03:25 PM
  6. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    What does that have to do with anything?
    Dude, really? lol
    12-08-2014 03:26 PM
  7. iEd's Avatar
    Look at the way Apple presents itself. When you walk into an Apple Store and the way displays are set up and presented. All the white. It all looks clean. Whether aluminum is cheap or not, look at how well it blends in with presentation. Even the website. You can call what I'm saying here perception. But it is in fact a fact which is evidence enough.

    How low would you like to see Apple put an iPhone at? Two to three hundred (without subsidy)? Do you not see how watered down the product would have to be? If aluminum isn't as luxurious as you're pointing out, then why haven't other phone manufacturers followed suit for the most part? Look at how nice the HTC One stands out from other Android phones. Apple is going to put an iPhone with reduced materials alongside their other ones? It would stick out like a sore thumb. It just doesn't fit in.
    Exactly. That is the Apple brand. That's their presentation. Everyone else's presentation is to make jokes about Apple.
    Microsoft and or HP has that notebook ad comparing it to a bunch of papers and a paper notebook. WTF. They gotta come better than that.


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    12-08-2014 03:30 PM
  8. A895's Avatar
    Dude, really? lol
    Yes really, how does earlier iPhone prices compare to 2014 prices for low cost devices?
    12-08-2014 03:36 PM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Exactly. That is the Apple brand. That's their presentation. Everyone else's presentation is to make jokes about Apple.
    Microsoft and or HP has that notebook ad comparing it to a bunch of papers and a paper notebook. WTF. They gotta come better than that.


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    To be fair the Surface Pro 3 is supposed to be notebook, tablet and laptop. That is what they are emphasizing.
    12-08-2014 03:37 PM
  10. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    They arene luxury products, luxury products are high priced items made of the most high quality materials. You may think an iPhone is that but it isn't, aluminum is the cheapest toughest metal, plastic on the outer casing isn't premium materials, and the bending problem at the beginning isn't qualities of luxury device. Last but not least, an iPhone is available in all first world markets no problem. Apple is the biggest smartphone manufacturer in the U.S. popularity is the exact opposite of real luxury products.

    And FYI, I don't take any of this personally if anything people around here are taking the suggestion that Apple could make a low cost iPhone personally.

    Kind of similar to how people took offense when the iPhone went prepaid. It didn't devalue Apple then like people said it was.
    Interesting...so to you, a luxury item is only those products made from luxuriously high quality/grade materials? I'm going to give you 3 very modern examples that completely throw your idea out the window...

    1.) 2011 Aston Martin Cygnet - Official Photos and Info - Car and Driver
    2.) Prada Sweater - Men Prada Sweaters online on YOOX United States
    3.) Arcam FMJ AVR450 review - AV Amplifiers & Receivers

    ...one is a rebadged Toyota Scion with some luxury cosmetic changes, one is a polo shirt that is made from the same materials as the polo shirt you can buy at any athletic store, and the last is a very nice receiver (which I personally own) that is made in Britain but is composed of about 50% re-designated Sony and Pioneer internals.

    So tell me again how true luxury items are only made of top end luxury materials? Forgive me for chuckling while you try and explain yourself.

    I think you have a tough time distinguishing between luxury products and "PREMIUM" products. Like I explained in my first post, my discussion talks about needs vs. wants...which is commonly referred to as "life's luxuries". Apple doesn't make products you need, Apple makes products you WANT...luxury tier.
    12-08-2014 03:42 PM
  11. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Yes really, how does earlier iPhone prices compare to 2014 prices for low cost devices?
    the 3G and I believe the 3GS started at $599. Fifty bucks lower than the starting price of the iPhone 6.

    Do you realize that you're arguing against yourself?
    12-08-2014 03:43 PM
  12. A895's Avatar
    Interesting...so to you, a luxury item is only those products made from luxuriously high quality/grade materials? I'm going to give you 3 very modern examples that completely throw your idea out the window...

    1.) 2011 Aston Martin Cygnet - Official Photos and Info - Car and Driver
    2.) Prada Sweater - Men Prada Sweaters online on YOOX United States
    3.) Arcam FMJ AVR450 review - AV Amplifiers & Receivers

    ...one is a rebadged Toyota Scion with some luxury cosmetic changes, one is a polo shirt that is made from the same materials as the polo shirt you can buy at any athletic store, and the last is a very nice receiver (which I personally own) that is made in Britain but is composed of about 50% re-designated Sony and Pioneer internals.

    So tell me again how true luxury items are only made of top end luxury materials? Forgive me for chuckling while you try and explain yourself.

    I think you have a tough time distinguishing between luxury products and "PREMIUM" products. Like I explained in my first post, my discussion talks about needs vs. wants...which is commonly referred to as "life's luxuries". Apple doesn't make products you need, Apple makes products you WANT...luxury tier.
    Again you are trying to prove your definition of a luxury item, Apple products agent luxury, maybe premium, but no luxury tier. REAL luxury tier.
    12-08-2014 03:45 PM
  13. A895's Avatar
    the 3G and I believe the 3GS started at $599. Fifty bucks lower than the starting price of the iPhone 6.

    Do you realize that you're arguing against yourself?
    I said they weren't made out of aluminum and glass, you brought up their prices.
    12-08-2014 03:45 PM
  14. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I said they weren't made out of aluminum and glass, you brought up their prices.
    No, you did. "Cost effective."

    The flagship iPhones at that time that were made with plastic were only $50 cheaper starting price than now.

    You would like a low-cost iPhone that would need even cheaper materials than those that you brought up.

    And the iPhone has always had glass. Would you want them to make a plastic screen?
    12-08-2014 03:48 PM
  15. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Sorry but the OP has completely lost me... :mind blown:


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    12-08-2014 03:53 PM
  16. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Again you are trying to prove your definition of a luxury item, Apple products agent luxury, maybe premium, but no luxury tier. REAL luxury tier.
    What the holy hell are you talking about bud? Is this just completely flying over your head?

    Words synonymous with "Luxury"...indulgence, nonessential, treat, extra, frill. Apple does not sell a product to fill a "need", they sell a product that fills a "want", an "indulgence", a nonessential piece of technology that, once again, could be replaced by a lower tier phone when it comes to basic functionality and demand, but is successful because it gives you something "extra", it gives you some smart phone "frill".

    This isn't my definition...this is the standard definition of luxury my friend. I'm sorry that you still fail to see this, and it has become excessively boring to continue to try to get you to understand this basic, general definition.

    Trust me...in my OWN definition of luxury, the iPhone barely even qualifies. I've spent more on mineral water in the last year than I have Apple products.
    12-08-2014 03:55 PM
  17. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Sorry but the OP has completely lost me... :mind blown:


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    He lost himself a long time ago...so don't feel bad.
    12-08-2014 03:55 PM
  18. A895's Avatar
    No, you did. "Cost effective."

    The flagship iPhones at that time that were made with plastic were only $50 cheaper starting price than now.

    You would like a low-cost iPhone that would need even cheaper materials than those that you brought up.

    And the iPhone has always had glass. Would you want them to make a plastic screen?
    They can do that, a lot of smartphones used plastic screens. Plastic casing and glass screen won't be expensive at all, it all depends on how much low quality Apple would make it.
    12-08-2014 03:57 PM
  19. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    They can do that, a lot of smartphones used plastic screens. Plastic casing and glass screen won't be expensive at all, it all depends on how much low quality Apple would make it.
    I don't think I could even give a phone with a plastic screen to a bum on the streets these days.

    You have to be kidding me.
    12-08-2014 03:59 PM
  20. A895's Avatar
    What the holy hell are you talking about bud? Is this just completely flying over your head?

    Words synonymous with "Luxury"...indulgence, nonessential, treat, extra, frill. Apple does not sell a product to fill a "need", they sell a product that fills a "want", an "indulgence", a nonessential piece of technology that, once again, could be replaced by a lower tier phone when it comes to basic functionality and demand, but is successful because it gives you something "extra", it gives you some smart phone "frill".

    This isn't my definition...this is the standard definition of luxury my friend. I'm sorry that you still fail to see this, and it has become excessively boring to continue to try to get you to understand this basic, general definition.

    Trust me...in my OWN definition of luxury, the iPhone barely even qualifies. I've spent more on mineral water in the last year than I have Apple products.
    You described luxury, and then disqualified it as luxury and still say I am wrong when I say it isn't luxury. Wut? I said exactly they aren't luxury products and you are agreeing with me, what is the issue?
    12-08-2014 03:59 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    He lost himself a long time ago...so don't feel bad.
    There is no need to attack me. It is a friendly discussion on petty to topics, why does it always fall to insults around here?
    12-08-2014 04:00 PM
  22. A895's Avatar
    I don't think I could even give a phone with a plastic screen to a bum on the streets these days.

    You have to be kidding me.
    I'm not, plastic screens have been used in smartphones for a while. The Lumia 520 has one.
    12-08-2014 04:03 PM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    You described luxury, and then disqualified it as luxury and still say I am wrong when I say it isn't luxury. Wut? I said exactly they aren't luxury products and you are agreeing with me, what is the issue?
    It's ok to admit you were wrong...you don't have to try to get all weird and post things that make absolutely no sense.
    12-08-2014 04:04 PM
  24. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    There is no need to attack me. It is a friendly discussion on petty to topics, why does it always fall to insults around here?

    I'm not attacking you, just making an observation. Attacking you would be me calling you bat sh*t crazy...like that last post you made to me sounded.
    12-08-2014 04:05 PM
  25. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I'm not, plastic screens have been used in smartphones for a while. The Lumia 520 has one.
    Which makes it not in the same class as an iPhone.
    12-08-2014 04:05 PM
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